Re: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Multi protocol support (stage #1)

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On Monday 22 May 2006 14:21, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2006, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> > Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> > >...
> > >I also say it again: I am deeply dissatisfied that none
> > >of the people you mentioned at the bottom of
> > >http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2006-May/010076.html
> > >seem to care enough to participate in the discussion.
> > >(Not to mention that app developers also don't
> > >seem to care -- after all these are the ones who'll have
> > >to deal with the new API.)
> > >
> > >Maybe we should just put the API change off for now. :-(
> >
> > Well, as an application developer (VDR) I'd like to be able to
> > support DVB-S2, but I guess my knowledge about all this is too
> > limited to understand what this heated debate is all about.
> >
> > I always thought that DVB-S2 is just "DVB-S with a new modulation",
>
> IMHO the current use of DVB-S2 is just that, i.e. basically
> the difference between the satellite_delivery_descriptor
> as defined in EN 300 468 version 1.5.1 vs. 1.7.1.
>
> (So it's actually not just a new modulation but also
> the new roll-off factor.)
>
> Current use of DVB-S2 to my knowledge is Premiere HD on Astra 19.2E.
> If someone know other *current* uses of DVB-S2 please speak up.

Astra 28.2E has S2 streams. In the UK, nearly all of Sky's HDTV streams are 
S2 - so its pretty obvious where they're heading with that. 

I will check if the S2 descriptors are used in those NITs.

In the past we seem to have implemented API support for everything specced in 
the standards. For example DVB-T hierarchies: has anyone ever seen those used 
in a real system? Yet still we have support for them, so why should S2 be any 
different?

And we can't predict unused features in DVBS2 from the lack of use of features 
in DVBT, since satellite broadcasting is entirely different from terrestrial 
broadcasting.

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