> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx> > An: christophpfister@xxxxxxxxxxx > Kopie: linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > Betreff: Re: Re: Patch 3 / 3 for bt8xx cards > Datum: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:33:33 -0400 > > christophpfister@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>> I will not apologize for this, because it is the truth what I am > saying. > >>> > >> Amen :) > >> > > We (members and developers) aren't an anarchic society. We're democratic > > (at least I hope so - I'm not a maintainer...). So please follow rules > to > > preserve a good develop environment. > > > > If a patch isn't accepted by a maintainer, he has to give reasons for > his > > decision. If you don't agree with his decision, you can just call for a > vote among maintainers and nothing more. > > > Christoph- > > Thank you for your effort in trying to provide some order to this flame. > > As far as for providing reasons for patch rejection -- Yes, it would be > nice, but it can't _always_ happen. You must remember that the people > maintaining this subsystem are doing it in their spare time. It is far > more useful for the maintainers to spend their time writing code and > applying good patches instead of explaining what is wrong with the bad > patches to people that refuse to listen to reason. <-- Now, don't quote > me out of context here. I do agree that every rejection deserves an > explanation, within reason. But you cannot expect anybody to respond to > a repetitious flamer, who continually re-posts the same patch after > being told over and over that it will not be applied. > > In this particular circumstance, the patch author is behaving in a > hostile manner. Previous patches from this guy were rejected, and > explanations were provided. Instead of accepting this, the author > starts an email flame, pointing fingers at anyone imaginable. Surely > with my comments in this thread, I am due to be the next victim. > > With that said, it should be noted that the author of this patch is > attempting to remove the names of copyright holders from the > documentation. His patch removes everybody's name from the bottom of > the document, replacing with his own name. Nobody has the right to do > this, especially not without approval from the names in question. Once > a copyright is added, it cannot be removed, and the same hold true for > documentation, unless agreed upon by the original copyright holder. > > In addition to the above, I really don't see any benefit to making this > change, nor do I think this requires any further debate. The case is > simple enough -- this same patch has been proposed repeatedly, it has > been rejected repeatedly, and the author continues to press the issue. > > If there are parts of the documentation that really need to be changed, > it would be a *much* better game plan to make small changes in separate > patches. Only then can the individual changes be dealt with separately, > and perhaps someone could be convinced to apply some parts. > > For patch guidelines, please see: > > http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/patches/stuff/tpp.txt > > ...and also please see README.patches from within the v4l-dvb mercurial > tree. > > Given that the author knows how everybody feels about it, I see nothing > wrong if he feels the need to re-post his patch for each new kernel > version. This is an open community, and it causes no harm to post a > patch that will never be included. However, at this point, it is well > known that the patch will not be accepted, and it has gone far beyond > the point where an explanation should be required. The flames are > highly inappropriate, and I ask that everyone stop wasting their time on > this issue. > > Regards, > > Michael Krufky > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb > Krufky and Abraham! You personally ARE personal mismatches, no maintainers at all. You aren´t even gatekeepers, you are just nothings. You both are completely incapable stupid nuts, and it would be a real progress to get especially YOU TWO out of this scenery here. Basta! Cheers Uwe P. S.: The persons I prefer are capable ones like Gerd Knorr, Peter Hettkamp, Ralph Metzler, Edgar Toernig, Bjorn Helgaas, Matthieu Castet, Andrew Morton ........... Those are really fine as the have a kind of class that YOU TWO will never have, even not after the 50th reincarnation. -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! "Feel free" mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl _______________________________________________ linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
