Patrick- I wrote you in irc, but I am copying it here, because I'll have to sign off IRC soon, and others might be interested / may have suggestions about this. (11:45:19) mkrufky: pmp: the bluebird firmware sets all bluebird boxes (ALL regardless of which type) to WARM usb id 0fe9:d700 ! (11:45:55) mkrufky: ...i think this is a bug in the firmware -- looks like Jeff (DViCO) supplied a custom firmware for the linux drivers -- windows driver behaves differently (windows driver firmware sets WARM ID := (COLD ID + 0x0001) ) (11:45:59) mkrufky: i will have to write him (11:46:05) mkrufky: again (11:48:03) mkrufky: ....i might need him to make a custom change to the firmware for me..... if he cannot do it, then i have a problem with frontend / tuner detection (11:48:20) mkrufky: there is an eeprom.... maybe i'll have to use it. (11:54:19) mkrufky: ...i sent my DVB-T tester a patch for the usb id's .... i will wait to see if it works before i write to Jeff again ... (12:19:27) mkrufky: pmp: i will email this to you, curious if you've had this problem before ..... I've thought of trying to probe all the frontends, like the flexcop driver does, although I really dislike that approach..... Regardless, it would be ugly to do it in that method, because each version of the Bluebird box has a different tuner also... LGZ201 / TH7579 / TUA6034 ... As far as the frontends, The ATSC uses lgdt3303 (you already know this) and both of the DVB-T ones use MT352 (you probably already know this, also.) ... I'm not sure about the dual DVB-T model, but I wont be programming that one, at least not right away. Anyhow, curious if you have any comments about this. Regards, -Michael Krufky