On 2019/8/20 8:55, Qu Wenruo wrote: > [...] >>>> I have made a simple fuzzer to inject messy in inode metadata, >>>> dir data, compressed indexes and super block, >>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/xiang/erofs-utils.git/commit/?h=experimental-fuzzer >>>> >>>> I am testing with some given dirs and the following script. >>>> Does it look reasonable? >>>> >>>> # !/bin/bash >>>> >>>> mkdir -p mntdir >>>> >>>> for ((i=0; i<1000; ++i)); do >>>> mkfs/mkfs.erofs -F$i testdir_fsl.fuzz.img testdir_fsl > /dev/null 2>&1 >>> >>> mkfs fuzzes the image? Er.... >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> First, This is just the first step of erofs fuzzer I wrote yesterday night... >> >>> >>> Over in XFS land we have an xfs debugging tool (xfs_db) that knows how >>> to dump (and write!) most every field of every metadata type. This >>> makes it fairly easy to write systematic level 0 fuzzing tests that >>> check how well the filesystem reacts to garbage data (zeroing, >>> randomizing, oneing, adding and subtracting small integers) in a field. >>> (It also knows how to trash entire blocks.) > > The same tool exists for btrfs, although lacks the write ability, but > that dump is more comprehensive and a great tool to learn the on-disk > format. > > > And for the fuzzing defending part, just a few kernel releases ago, > there is none for btrfs, and now we have a full static verification > layer to cover (almost) all on-disk data at read and write time. > (Along with enhanced runtime check) > > We have covered from vague values inside tree blocks and invalid/missing > cross-ref find at runtime. > > Currently the two layered check works pretty fine (well, sometimes too > good to detect older, improper behaved kernel). > - Tree blocks with vague data just get rejected by verification layer > So that all members should fit on-disk format, from alignment to > generation to inode mode. > > The error will trigger a good enough (TM) error message for developer > to read, and if we have other copies, we retry other copies just as > we hit a bad copy. > > - At runtime, we have much less to check > Only cross-ref related things can be wrong now. since everything > inside a single tree block has already be checked. > > In fact, from my respect of view, such read time check should be there > from the very beginning. > It acts kinda of a on-disk format spec. (In fact, by implementing the > verification layer itself, it already exposes a lot of btrfs design > trade-offs) > > Even for a fs as complex (buggy) as btrfs, we only take 1K lines to > implement the verification layer. > So I'd like to see every new mainlined fs to have such ability. Out of curiosity, it looks like every mainstream filesystem has its own fuzz/injection tool in their tool-set, if it's really such a generic requirement, why shouldn't there be a common tool to handle that, let specified filesystem fill the tool's callback to seek a node/block and supported fields can be fuzzed in inode. It can help to avoid redundant work whenever Linux welcomes a new filesystem.... Thanks, > >> >> Actually, compared with XFS, EROFS has rather simple on-disk format. >> What we inject one time is quite deterministic. >> >> The first step just purposely writes some random fuzzed data to >> the base inode metadata, compressed indexes, or dir data field >> (one round one field) to make it validity and coverability. >> >>> >>> You might want to write such a debugging tool for erofs so that you can >>> take apart crashed images to get a better idea of what went wrong, and >>> to write easy fuzzing tests. >> >> Yes, we will do such a debugging tool of course. Actually Li Guifu is now >> developping a erofs-fuse to support old linux versions or other OSes for >> archiveing only use, we will base on that code to develop a better fuzzer >> tool as well. > > Personally speaking, debugging tool is way more important than a running > kernel module/fuse. > It's human trying to write the code, most of time is spent educating > code readers, thus debugging tool is way more important than dead cold code. > > Thanks, > Qu >> >> Thanks, >> Gao Xiang >> >>> >>> --D >>> >>>> umount mntdir >>>> mount -t erofs -o loop testdir_fsl.fuzz.img mntdir >>>> for j in `find mntdir -type f`; do >>>> md5sum $j > /dev/null >>>> done >>>> done >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Gao Xiang >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Gao Xiang >>>>> > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://driverdev.linuxdriverproject.org/mailman/listinfo/driverdev-devel