On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jon & Grant especially: > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Simon Glass <sjg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Me >>> I will go in and answer the comment on the DT mailing list so there is >>> some push atleast. >> >> Perhaps if we could see some movement then it would provide >> encouragement to continue. So far I cannot recall seeing a single >> U-Boot device tree change accepted in the 4 years I've been involved. >> That's not to say it hasn't happened, and I hope it is just a >> reflection on my memory rather than the difficulty level. Sorry, but anything is with "uboot,*" is going to be an uphill battle. The same is true for "linux,*" properties. There's only 2-3 linux ones that have gone in that timeframe and not without much discussion. > OK this isn't working. > > I think the problem is that DT bindings have traditionally been merged to > the kernel by different subsystem maintainers. That means mailing them > and their mailing lists and this is IMO too complex for U-Boot people > (or other external people) to have to deal with. As subsystem > maintainer I'm not very happy about being the one responsible either. > > The MAINTAINERS entry for device tree bindings does not state a > git tree and I've never seen any of the maintainers send a pull request for > DT binding files. (Beat me up properly if you have, guys.) I've seen > Grant send some at times. Err, what? $ git log --merges --grep='Pull.*\(Herring\|Likely\)' --oneline Documentation/devicetree/ 4401555 Merge tag 'devicetree-fixes-for-4.3' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux f1a3c0b Merge tag 'devicetree-for-4.3' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 4da3064 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/glikely/linux d56a669 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-4.1' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 7505256 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/glikely/linux 3d52c5b Merge tag 'devicetree-fixes-for-4.0' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux cdd3054 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-3.20' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux b8de08d Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/glikely/linux 7ef58b3 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/glikely/linux 2e29a6d Merge tag 'devicetree-fixes-for-3.18' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux e98d6e7 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/glikely/linux 4d3afba Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux ae36e95 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux d270506 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-3.16' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux into next 345ef87 Merge tag 'dt-fixes-for-3.15' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux b9f2b21 Merge tag 'dt-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux bbb1955 Merge tag 'dt-fixes-for-3.14' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 4d8880a Merge tag 'devicetree-for-3.14' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 24cb412 Merge tag 'dt-fixes-for-3.13' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 10d0c97 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-3.13' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/robh/linux 31f7c3a Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux 74b9272 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux ff9129b Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux 30c67e9 Merge tag 'gpio-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux b3cdda2 Merge tag 'dt-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux 3aad3f0 Merge tag 'spi-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux e327955 Merge tags 'dt-for-linus', 'gpio-for-linus' and 'spi-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 d3b43e1 Merge tag 'spi-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 b0885d0 Merge tag 'gpio-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 b58ed04 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 a54dfb1 Merge tag 'dt-for-3.7' of git://sources.calxeda.com/kernel/linux 7fe0b14 Merge tag 'spi-3.7' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/broonie/misc f14121a Merge tag 'dt-for-3.6' of git://sources.calxeda.com/kernel/linux b1bf7d4 Merge tag 'gpio-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 0708500 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 e152c38 Merge tag 'devicetree-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 7bf97e1 Merge tag 'gpio-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 5f0e685 Merge tag 'spi-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 f8974cb Merge tag 'dt-for-linus' of git://git.secretlab.ca/git/linux-2.6 The DT core code and bindings (which don't go thru subsystem trees) go together. The maintainer issues with DT are on binding review bandwidth, not so much on there is no one applying them. I'm sure we've missed things though. > I suggest sending U-Boot DT bindings to not only > devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > but also, as indicated, to Jon Corbet and linux-doc. I'd suggest devicetree-spec@vger for common things. Perhaps we need a better name, but the whole point of this was to separate the common issues from the firehose and have multiple OS participation. > If noone cares to comment in two weeks, Jon can merge them, > breaking the status quo on external DT bindings. Did someone tell Jon to drink from that firehose? > The DT bindings maintainance has sadly been a very sad story and if > the Linux kernel should be the canon repository for them, we > need to find a simple way for external projects to contribute. Just > mailing them to devicetree@vger obviously stands the risk of just > ending up in the memory hole. > > Jon, are you OK with taking on this or do we need to find another way > of funneling external DT bindings? Or do you want to do this Grant? Grant is stepping away from maintainer duties. In any case, I don't think the problem here is bindings not getting picked up. The instances I'm aware of the bindings were reviewed and commented on. Rob > > Yours, > Linus Walleij > _______________________________________________ > U-Boot mailing list > U-Boot@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-doc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
