Hi Petr, On 2/15/22 09:26, Petr Mladek wrote: > On Mon 2022-02-14 16:56:15, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> Tell about 'console=null|""' and how to use it. >> >> Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@xxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@xxxxxxx> >> Cc: linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> --- >> Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 6 ++++++ >> 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) >> >> --- linux-next-20220214.orig/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt >> +++ linux-next-20220214/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt >> @@ -724,6 +724,12 @@ >> hvc<n> Use the hypervisor console device <n>. This is for >> both Xen and PowerPC hypervisors. >> >> + { null | "" } >> + Use to disable console output, i.e., to have kernel >> + console messages discarded. >> + This must be the first (or only) console= string >> + used on the kernel command line. > > It must be the only console= parameter on the command line. Otherwise, > the other consoles get enabled as well. > > It might make sense to detect this situation and print a warning or > so. Nobody has sent a patch for this so far. > > But there is even bigger problem. The default console is also used > as stdin/stdout/stderr for the init process. It might fail when there > is no console driver associated with it. > > The problem with stdin/stdout/stderr does not happen when > CONFIG_NULL_TTY is enabled and ttynull driver is available. > Unfortunately, it can't be enabled by default because it can > be used by mistake, see the commit a91bd6223ecd46addc71e > ("Revert "init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there > is no console"). > > And there is still a mystery that has not been explained yet, > see https://lore.kernel.org/r/a46e9a26-5b9f-f14c-26be-0b4d41fa7429@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > On the positive note. console=null mostly works. All the problems are > hard to reproduce. > > > Now, what to do with this patch. I would suggest two changes: > > 1. Replace "must be the first (or only)" with "must be the only" > > 2. Mention that it is suggested to enable CONFIG_NULL_TTY that > will avoid problems with stdin/stdout/stderr of the init process. > But it might cause the ttynull might be used even when a real > console is configured. And that more details can be found > in the commit a91bd6223ecd46addc71e ("Revert "init/console: > Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console"). > > It might be enough to mention this in the commit message. Thanks for the history summary and suggestions. I'll send a v2... -- ~Randy