On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 16:53 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> On 05/29/2014 03:59 PM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 15:31 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >> On 05/29/2014 03:12 PM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 13:07 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>>> On 05/29/2014 09:59 AM, Vasily Kulikov wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 23:27 +0400, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>>>> ] We need a direct method of getting the pid inside containers.
> >>>>> ] If some issues occurred inside container guest, host user
> >>>>> ] could not know which process is in trouble just by guest pid:
> >>>>> ] the users of container guest only knew the pid inside containers.
> >>>>> ] This will bring obstacle for trouble shooting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A new syscall might complicate trouble shooting by admin.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pure syscall -- yes. What if we teach the ps and top utilities to show additional
> >>>> info? I think that would help.
> >>>
> >>> I like the idea with low level non-shell API which can be used by
> >>> utility like ps (or implementation of a new tool to work with complex
> >>> namespace hierarchies). It should fit for troublesooting. Then there
> >>> should be no reason to implement two different APIs for observation from
> >>> shell via FS and from applications.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can reuse the existing kcmp() system call? We would have to store
> >> the collected pid values in some hash/tree anyway, and kcmp() provides us
> >> good comparing function for doing this.
> >>
> >> Like we can call kcmp(pid1, pid2, KCMP_PID, nsfd1, nsfd2) which will mean
> >> "Are tasks with pid1 in namespace pointed by nsfd1 and with pid2 in namespace
> >> nsfd2 the same?"
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >
> > kcmp() is not needed, just compare inode numbers:
> >
> > # ls -il /proc/{43,self}/ns/mnt
> > 208182 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 мая 29 15:52 /proc/43/ns/mnt -> mnt:[4026531856]
> > 216556 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 мая 29 15:57 /proc/self/ns/mnt -> mnt:[4026531840]
>
> But that's for comparing the namespaces, while I'm proposing the kcmp to
> check for PIDs.
Hm, right.
What about the following solution: export global process ID (PID in
init ns) which is visible inside of any namespace. Then you can compare
numbers regardless in what namespace you are.
--
Vasily Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
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