On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:11:50PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Nothing, but as long as something is keeping the pts file entry open, it > should not be garbage-collected. The pts is opened after the parent (holding the master side) exits, so the ptm is not going away from under us while we have the pts open -- it's no longer there at open() time. The lifetime rules and relations for master tty_struct, slave tty_struct and the corresponding devpts inode are still not completely clear to me (what is holding what alive etc.), so I want to be 100% sure we're on the same page. In this case it looks like the ttys are gone but the inode still keeps a pointer to the pts tty_struct. So we can either: 1. overwrite the pointer with -EIO or something 2. extend the life of the ttys to match the inode As the end result from userspace perspective is the same (we have to error out when opening the pts anyway -- as you implied above), I'd go for the simpler (1). BTW, I was mistaken about experimenting with the dentry refcount -- I did it the other way around (tty_kref_get while creating the inode IIRC). Sorry for the confusion. Best regards, Grzegorz Nosek _______________________________________________ Containers mailing list Containers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/containers