Re: Can we have cifsmount.conf?

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve French" <smfrench@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Ronnie Sahlberg" <lsahlber@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Kenneth Dsouza" <kdsouza@xxxxxxxxxx>, "CIFS" <linux-cifs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2018 3:04:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Can we have cifsmount.conf?
> 
> Some interesting points you make about hypothetical things that could
> be included, and I hadn't thought about your point:
> 
> > For module arguments, such as disable smb1 completely we already have
> > /etc/modprobe.d
> 
> but how would you persist settings for /proc/fs/cifs/*

For those things that makes sense to persist we can have a policy that there must be a module option with the same name.
Then if you want to make it persistent then you set foobar in /etc/modprobe.d/cifs.conf
and it applies everytime you (re)load the module.

If you just want to do some changes at runtime then you change them via /proc/fs/cifs/foobar   ?



> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:59 PM Ronnie Sahlberg <lsahlber@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Are we mixing module arguments and mount options in the same mechanism, and
> > should we?
> >
> >
> > Module arguments are global in the sense that we only have a single
> > instance of the module loaded into the kernel
> > and its settings apply to all client connections and mounts.
> >
> > For module arguments, such as disable smb1 completely we already have
> > /etc/modprobe.d and it should be sufficient?
> > It is already persistent and it controls the arguments for loading the
> > module.
> >
> >
> >
> > I see a hypothetical /etc/cifsmount.conf as orthogonal to this. This should
> > not be about module arguments but rather
> > mount options. Either global mount options or mount options that
> > automatically apply (and override the user command line)
> > on a per server or mountpoint basis.
> >
> > It could be used to say things like :
> > * only allow SMB2+ mounts... (even if the module itself allows smb1)
> > * use smb1 and posix for servers a/b/c...
> > ...
> >
> > and mount.cifs would parse this file and add the arguments that were
> > missing automatically.
> >
> >
> > regards
> > ronnie sahlberg
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve French" <smfrench@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Kenneth Dsouza" <kdsouza@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "CIFS" <linux-cifs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2018 1:46:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Can we have cifsmount.conf?
> >
> > since there are only about 20 of the 90 cifs mount options that are
> > needed for 99% of the cases this tool may not be that bad to create -
> > and of course for extra-credit/bonus-points a GUI mount tool which
> > exposes the smallest sane subset of mount options might be useful to
> > some - and could also be added to cifs-utils
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:44 PM Kenneth Dsouza <kdsouza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, I will take a look at the pre-existing code for
> > > reference(nfs-utils and other).
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Steve French <smfrench@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I think this is a reasonable idea - and nfs-utils's parsing for this
> > > > config file (in mount.nfs e.g.) may be similar enough to smb3
> > > > requirements in some cases - but don't rule out the idea of seeing if
> > > > anything is shareable/reuseable with Samba (to allow e.g. smbcacls or
> > > > small client utilities to benefit from cifs.ko configuration and vice
> > > > versa).   In addition don't rule out the idea of writing small
> > > > cifs-utils that allow sane setting of the text configuration file (ala
> > > > "net conf <section> <keyword> <value>" or equivalent.  One of the
> > > > curses of many text config files is difficulty figuring out
> > > > options/syntax etc. and making spelling mistakes so in a perfect world
> > > > the user could set the config file values with an easy to use
> > > > cifs-util tool (vaguely similar to "net conf ..." perhaps)
> > > >
> > > > If we allow setting the 5-10 module install parms and then the things
> > > > configurable in /proc/fs/cifs/* ... we would need some way to load
> > > > them on reboot.
> > > >
> > > > The nfs example may be useful but it is more focused on mount parms it
> > > > seems rather than other config values.
> > > >
> > > > But if you want to pursue this it seems promising to investigate
> > > > nfsmount.conf and whether there is something vaguely similar we could
> > > > do for smb3 but ... I would prefer if along with that we had an easy
> > > > to use tool to set the values and provide help on the valid options
> > > > etc. (there may be a lot we can also learn by the way from other fs
> > > > tools as models - e.g. "iostat" and "nfsiostat" if looking at these
> > > > tools for other file systems)
> > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 9:35 PM Kenneth Dsouza <kdsouza@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > >
> > > I agree we can have a  cifs-conf command for example. This command
> > > will help us retrieve mount  settings and make changes directly to the
> > > /etc/cifsmount.conf.
> > > This will help us to only add valid options and avoid typos.
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I was just wondering why we don't have a /etc/cifsmount.conf just like
> > > >> /etc/nfsmount.conf for mount options.  I would like to work on it, if
> > > >> we can add this functionality.
> > > >> Using this we can easily disable smb1.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Kenneth D'souza
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
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> 
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> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
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