Re: DFS referrals

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On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:11:37 -0700
Richard Sharpe <realrichardsharpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 08:00:14 -0700
> > Richard Sharpe <realrichardsharpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Marcus Moeller <marcus.moeller@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hi again,
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:50:03 +0200
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Marcus Moeller <marcus.moeller@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.607810] fs/cifs/cifssmb.c: negprot rc 0
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.607814] fs/cifs/connect.c: Security Mode: 0xf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Capabilities:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 0x8001f3fc TimeAdjust: -7200
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.607817] fs/cifs/sess.c: sess setup type 4
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.607826] fs/cifs/cifs_spnego.c: key description =
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ver=0x2;host=d.ethz.ch;ip4=82.130.70.6;sec=krb5;uid=0xaf05;creduid=0xaf05;user=mam4tst;pid=0x61a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803185] fs/cifs/sess.c: ssetup freeing small buf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ffff88022c31a000
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803195] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -126
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803203] fs/cifs/connect.c: CIFS VFS: leaving
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> cifs_get_smb_ses (xid = 5) rc = -126
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803212] fs/cifs/fscache.c:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> cifs_fscache_release_client_cookie:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> (0xffff88022a1b6000/0xffff88022a6430f0)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803368] fs/cifs/connect.c: CIFS VFS: leaving cifs_mount
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> (xid
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> = 4) rc = -126
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  124.803374] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -126
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> The only failure I see is the one above, and that's because it
> >> >>>>>>>>>> failed
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to upcall for the correct key. Are you sure you have krb5 creds as
> >> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>>> user?
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Yes, creds are there and it also works when mounting from one of
> >> >>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>> servers directly.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Only mounting using the domainname does not work.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.324798] fs/cifs/cifssmb.c: negprot rc 0
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.324804] fs/cifs/connect.c: Security Mode: 0xf
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Capabilities:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 0x8001f3fc TimeAdjust: -7200
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.324808] fs/cifs/sess.c: sess setup type 4
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.324821] fs/cifs/cifs_spnego.c: key description =
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ver=0x2;host=d.ethz.ch;ip4=172.31.65.62;sec=krb5;uid=0xaf05;creduid=0xaf05;user=mam4tst;pid=0x62c
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.384335] fs/cifs/transport.c: For smb_command 115
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.384344] fs/cifs/transport.c: Sending smb: smb_len=1666
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.387043] fs/cifs/connect.c: RFC1002 header 0xf9
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.387055] fs/cifs/misc.c: checkSMB Length: 0xfd,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> smb_buf_length: 0xf9
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.387095] fs/cifs/transport.c: cifs_sync_mid_result: cmd=115
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> mid=2 state=4
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> [  131.387100] fs/cifs/misc.c: Null buffer passed to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> cifs_small_buf_release
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Here' the upcall for a similar set of creds worked fine. The only
> >> >>>>>>>>>> thing
> >> >>>>>>>>>> that seems to have changed in the key description is the IP
> >> >>>>>>>>>> address.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have cifs.upcall set up to use the --trust-dns flag? If so,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> why?
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> A relict from the past. I have removed it from the config. Thanks
> >> >>>>>>>>> for
> >> >>>>>>>>> pointing out.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Sorry, I was wrong. Without the -t option I am not even able to mount
> >> >>>>> it
> >> >>>>> at all. The man page states a few words on that parameter, but I am
> >> >>>>> still not sure how it works when -t is not set.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> With -t set, the initial problem with the domain lookup works, when
> >> >>>>> reverse DNS is configured propably.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Ok, that makes sense then. The problem here is that the kernel needs to
> >> >>>> know what service principal name to use when contacting the server, and
> >> >>>> I suspect your krb5 configuration is not quite right.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It looks like you're doing something like:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>       mount //d.ethz.ch/dfs /mnt/dfs -o sec=krb5...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ...at this point, what happens is that the kernel needs to get a krb5
> >> >>>> service ticket to talk to the CIFS service on the host.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What it typically does is take the hostname in the UNC that you're
> >> >>>> trying to mount, prepend it with "cifs/" and then try to get a service
> >> >>>> ticket for that. In your case, it'll look something like this:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>       cifs/d.ethz.ch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ...now, typically if that fails, we'll give up. Trying to do anything
> >> >>>> else is not considered safe since it's vulernable to DNS spoofing.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If however, you add the '-t' flag to cifs.upcall, that tells it to try
> >> >>>> and guess the hostname part of that principal by reverse resolving it in
> >> >>>> DNS. It takes the IP address to which you are connecting, does a
> >> >>>> reverse DNS lookup and then uses that in the SPN.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This is less safe, since if your DNS server is compromised someone
> >> >>>> could redirect you to a malicious server, and your client wouldn't be
> >> >>>> able to trivially detect that. So it in effect waters down krb5
> >> >>>> security.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The correct fix is to ensure that the server(s) to which you are
> >> >>>> connecting have the ability to accept SPNs for the "hostnames" to which
> >> >>>> you want to connect. That means that you need to add SPNs for
> >> >>>> cifs/d.ethz.ch and ensure that the server will accept them to talk to
> >> >>>> its cifs service.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Alternately, you can continue to use the '-t' flag and ensure that each
> >> >>>> possible server accepts principals for the hostnames to which their IP
> >> >>>> addresses reverse-resolve, with the caveat that its less safe than
> >> >>>> doing that the "right way".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> As to how to add these principals and make the server accept them...it
> >> >>>> depends on the server.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Clear as mud?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hehe, thanks for pointing that out. One thing I am not yet aware of is
> >> >>> where the SPN cifs/d.ethz.ch has to be set? On the DFS Servers and/or on
> >> >>> the servers which hold the shares? The latter ones are EMC and the DFS
> >> >>> Servers are 2008R2.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Greets
> >> >>> Marcus
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Definitely on the first DFS server. On the others, they'll need to
> >> >> accept SPNs holding the hostnames that are in the DFS referrals. So if
> >> >> your DFS server gives you a referral that's something like this:
> >> >>
> >> >>      bar -> //foo.d.ethz.ch/bar
> >> >>
> >> >> ...then you'll need to ensure that foo.d.ethz.ch accepts SPNs that have
> >> >> that hostname in them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have found some time to talk to our Active Directory Admins. They
> >> > mentioned that every DC in our setup is a DFS server and there is nothing
> >> > like a 'first DFS'. So is it possible to set the same SPN on all of these
> >> > servers?
> >>
> >> No, it is not possible to set the same SPN on more than one computer
> >> object in AD.
> >>
> >> What happens here is a combination of DNS magic (there are multiple
> >> SRV records) and replication of the DFS info between DCs in the AD
> >> domain.
> >>
> >> A client can query any DC for the translation of a DNS namespace.
> >>
> >> My use case lives below that level and it is all pretty much working
> >> (except for XP, which will not do multiple levels of DFS referrals, it
> >> seems.)
> >>
> >> In any event, I might eventually have to use a shared secrets file,
> >> which overcomes the issue of SPNs.
> >>
> >
> > What SRV records are used? Should we fix mount.cifs to try and query
> > for an SRV record first and then try to resolve that hostname before
> > attempting to mount?
> 
> Those are just for finding the namespace, and I am not sure exactly
> how it is handled, but if you have a namespace of
> \\domain.realm\namespace1, I think any DC in that domain can be used
> to get to the first level.
> 

Bear with me, as I'm pretty clueless as to how AD stuff works.

If all I have is \\domain.realm\namespace1 what should I be doing to
connect to it at that point? Currently we just treat "domain.realm" as
a hostname, but evidently that's not quite the right thing to do. Is it?

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx>
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