Hi Sonny, On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:50 AM Sonny Sasaka <sonnysasaka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Luiz, > > Friendly ping here. Could you respond to my RFC about adding "Bonded" > property? I am about to write the patch but I would like to hear > whether this makes sense from your perspective. Thanks. Yes please go ahead and introduce it, also remember to add support to the likes of bluetoothctl as well. > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 4:02 PM Sonny Sasaka <sonnysasaka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Luiz, > > > > Thanks for the clarification. So my guess was right that it does not > > have to do with bondedness. In that case, do you think it makes sense > > to add a "Bonded" flag property to org.bluez.Device1? There are some > > use case flows that pair with a peer device but do not actually bond, > > and just with Paired property the UI can't know whether to show this > > device as "Bonded" or not. > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 1:30 PM Luiz Augusto von Dentz > > <luiz.dentz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Sonny, > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:23 AM Sonny Sasaka <sonnysasaka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear maintainers, > > > > > > > > Friendly ping on this question. Does adding "Bonded" property to > > > > org.bluez.Device1 make sense? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:02 PM Sonny Sasaka <sonnysasaka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Luiz/BlueZ maintainers, > > > > > > > > > > What is the purpose of the Trusted property on org.bluez.Device1 > > > > > interface? Does it mean whether the device is bonded? My experiment > > > > > with BlueZ shows that sometimes a device with "Trusted" property set > > > > > is not bonded (does not have pairing key stored) and also vice versa, > > > > > so I am assuming that the Trusted property means something else. What > > > > > is an example use case of the Trusted property? > > > > > > > > > > Eventually, what I am trying to achieve is for BlueZ clients to find > > > > > out whether a device is Bonded or not. Using the Paired property is > > > > > not very accurate because it is set to true during connection although > > > > > the device is not bonded (pairing key does not persist after > > > > > disconnection). For this purpose, I am about to propose adding > > > > > "Bonded" property to org.bluez.Device1. Some use cases include when > > > > > there is a temporary pairing with a peer device we don't want UI to > > > > > show that the device is in the Bonded device list. What do you think > > > > > about exposing the Bonded state via D-Bus? I will do the > > > > > implementation if this idea makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Trusted primary use is to bypass agent authorization, so when set the > > > agent will not have to authorize profile connections, and yes you can > > > set a device to be Trusted even without having it paired since the > > > bonding procedure refers to authentication rather than authorization > > > which is what Trusted controls. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Luiz Augusto von Dentz -- Luiz Augusto von Dentz
