Hi Michał, > On Aug 29, 2019, at 12:56 PM, "michal.lowas-rzechonek@xxxxxxxxxxx" <michal.lowas-rzechonek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Brian, > >> On 08/29, Gix, Brian wrote: >> That is true, and we *expect* applications that are attached to handle >> the socket-signals (that drive d-bus) in a timely manner... But I am >> not sure we have a way to enforce it. >> >> Certainly, we can simulate a disconnection if an App ignores it's DBus >> socket signal, but again, we won't know about that for 30 seconds >> which seems like forever... And an App could potentially have a large >> enough backlog of messages negatively affecting the daemon before it >> and corrects it. > > This seems like a limitation of ELL: > 1. There doesn't seem to be an explicit API to set timeouts on method > calls, so if the application takes too long to handle method calls, > message_list hashmap in l_dbus struct would indeed grow quite large. > 2. There doesn't seem to be a way to set an upper limit of pending > messages (or maybe even message rate?) in l_dbus connection. > > Still, looking at ell/dbus.c, it seems it should be possible to manually > call l_dbus_cancel after obtaining serial number of the method call > message, using _dbus_message_get_serial from dbus-private.h (yeah, I > know). > > Anyway, I think a better approach would be to submit patches to ELL > implementing these two features, and then use these additions in meshd. > Does that sound acceptable from your POV? I’m not sure I agree with you on the need to expose and adjust DBus message timeouts, however, I think you are probably correct that the correct place to have that conversation is on the ELL reflector, which can be accessed here: https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/ell I still feel though, that you are trying to solve a pre-deployment “debugging” issue by requiring DBus responses for messages that don’t require them. > > By the way, it seems that bluetoothd suffers from the same problem with > regards to external GATT services/characteristics/descriptors. > > regards > -- > Michał Lowas-Rzechonek <michal.lowas-rzechonek@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Silvair http://silvair.com > Jasnogórska 44, 31-358 Krakow, POLAND