Hello ML, I have a problem with the lifetime of a device object in the bluetoothd. When you scan for devices they first appear as temporary devices (device_is_temporary()==true), and attempting to pair to a given device will mark it as not temporary. The problem is that if the pair fails, for example because the device is no longer in range or is off, the device keeps its non-temporary status. When this happens, the device status is as follows: * Remove_temp_devices() will never remove it after the timeout, since it is not temporary. * The device's profiles are unknown because the device was never paired and thus, the device is not stored on disk (we just know the name on the ADAPTER_ADDR/cache/DEVICE_ADDR file)... * Because of this, a bluetoothd restart will discard that device in the new process, meaning that the device was in fact a temporary device... but the device will stay there in the device list forever (until we Remove it). I tried to set the temporary property back to true when the pairing fails (and is not connected, nor trusted, etc ....) but I see a lot of other problems with that approach. In general... I don't get why we need the "temporary" field itself... temporary should be derived from properties like bonded, connected, trusted and some sort of "LastSeen". Thinking about this, I propose to add the already mentioned "LastSeen" property to the Device1 interface and let the client handle what's the right thing to show to the user in a meaningful order. The other thing we could do is to get rid of the explicit "temporary" property and make it just a function of the other mentioned properties. Basically, bluetoothd should get rid of a device when nobody cares about it (is not connected, not trusted nor paired, etc) and we didn't heard from it in the last N minutes. Any thoughts? Thanks, Alex. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html