Hi Claudio, > Hi Jaikumar > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Jaikumar Ganesh <jaikumarg@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> Hey Claudio: >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Claudio Takahasi >> <claudio.takahasi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Hi Jaikumar, >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jaikumar Ganesh <jaikumarg@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi Claudio: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Claudio Takahasi >>>> <claudio.takahasi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> There is a potential race condition in the Generic Attribute API. I'd >>>>> like to collect opinions to avoid re-work later. >>>>> >>>>> How to reproduce: >>>>> - call CreateDevice() for a device which exports a GATT based >>>>> service: >>>>> CreateDevice will discover all primary services >>>>> Â and the Generic API will register the object paths for all found >>>>> services >>>>> - Call DiscoverCharacteristics() of the primary service followed by >>>>> Characteristic GetProperties(), expected result: read all >>>>> characteristics properties outcome: partial characteristics >>>>> properties >>>>> may appear. >>>>> >>>>> This problem happens because DiscoverCharacteristics() doesn't wait >>>>> for all characteristic VALUES, it returns after discovering all >>>>> characteristic DECLARATIONS. >>>>> Wait for characteristic values is a problem, attributes may require >>>>> authentication or authorization. >>>>> >>>>> Suggestions are: >>>>> 1. Report discovered characteristic values using PropertyChanged: >>>>> Returning empty properties values (for GetProperties) if the >>>>> discovery >>>>> is in progress >>>>> >>>>> 2. Block GetProperties() if there is a discovery pending: returning >>>>> after discovery finishes. Timeout can still happen! >>>>> >>>>> 3. Return Busy for GetProperties() if there is a characteristic >>>>> discovery in progress >>>>> >>>>> Comments? >>>> >>>> I don't think we should read characteristic value till the application >>>> asks for it. >>> Are you suggesting to trigger the characteristic value and descriptors >>> read when Characteristic GetProperties() is called and block it? >>> Remember that GATT timeout is 30seconds and the default D-Bus message >>> reply timeout is smaller. >>> >>>> DiscoverCharacteristics() should just return after getting the >>>> DECLARATIONS. >>> This is current behaviour. >> >> Sorry misread your email a bit. >> >> I assume you are referring to the Characteristic Watcher when you are >> talking about the PropertyChanged signal, >> since there is no explicit PropertyChanged signal. >> >> I don't think we should block GetProperties. But then if we are >> returning null and depending on PropertyChanged signal when we have to >> read the values, clients will need to wait for it after calling >> GetProperties. We need to guarantee that this signal will be sent >> (with a timeout, unless we want the clients to have the timeout at >> their end) even if we are unable to get the value - because of some >> kind of error. > > Signal with a timeout? I don't think that it is necessary. > We can use persistent storage returning "old" values on GetProperties > calls and use PropertyChanged to notify "new" values asynchronously. > This approach should be enough. Just noticed this thread. I ran into a similar problem. Cannot we just delay the return of DiscoverCharacteristics method call until after the characteristic values/properties have been acquired? I tried out this solution and it seems to work fine. The trick is to implement internal counter for received responses from the remote device + timeout that is reset on each successful response. Any thoughts on this? Also, "Property Changed" on characteristic obj path/interface signal is mentioned in the attribute API doc, but I cannot seem to find implementation for the signal in the code. Am I missing something? > >> >> In all other places we use PropertyChanged signal when the property >> value actually changes, whereas here we are tying it with the reading >> of the properties. >> >> How about providing separate calls for read and writing values and >> decoupling it from the Properties ? > > I don't think it will help, authorization and GATT timeout is still a > problem. > We are trying to cover unusual scenarios, IMO change the API to cover > these cases doesn't look correct. > > BR, > Claudio. > >> >> Thanks >> >>> >>>> A client might not be interested in all the values and thus we should >>>> read them only >>>> when needed by the client. This will save both time and power and >>>> solve this problem too. >>> >>> I don't think it is critical, we are not reading them on all >>> connections/re-connections and the profiles available at the moment >>> don't expose "complex" characteristics. >> >> I am talking about GATT clients written using the attribute DBUS apis. >> Accessory vendors >> want to get started on LE and not wait till all the profiles are >> approved the SIG and developed >> and they want to develop things based on the GATT clients APIs. >> >>> >>> BR, >>> Claudio >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Jaikumar >>>>> >>>>> BR, >>>>> Claudio >>> > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" > in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Thanks, Inga Stotland Employee of Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. 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