so i decided to start working my way through the code and found references to uinput in input/device.c this gave me another keyword to use in google and lo and behold this popped up: Fri Oct 17 2008 - Bastien Nocera <bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx>> - 4.14-2 - Add script to autoload uinput on startup, so the PS3 remote works out-of-the-box sure enough i did not have this module in my kernel. just building now in hope that this might be the issue not being a fedora user i never thought to look there to see if there was documentation ;-( -- simon -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-bluetooth" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html