On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:14:36AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote: > On 4/4/23 10:06?AM, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 10:01:58AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote: > >>>> Starting to get personal instead tends to not help to convince your > >>>> reviewers that it's really useful in general. > >>> > >>> I know you and others like to talk a lot about what you want as > >>> maintainers and reviewers - but I find that the people who are the > >>> loudest and the most authoritarian in that respect tend not to be the > >>> people who drive discussions forward in productive ways. > >> > >> One issue is certainly that nobody wants to engage with people that > >> instantly try and make this personal, or just uncomfortable in general. > > > > Yeah, you like to respond to technical discussion with a *plonk*. > > > > *eyeroll* > > > > Christoph can handle himself, he doesn't need you defending him. > > I'm not defending Christoph, I'm trying to help YOU understand why > your patchsets always turn sour. And I'm trying to get this toxicity off > the list, because it's frankly not productive at all and it's hurting > the developer environment for everybody else. > > If everybody else seems like an asshole, maybe it's actually you? A > little introspection would be prudent. If you can't change your tone, > please just go somewhere else. I'm not interested. Let's just leave this aside for now and talk about it at LSF.