Re: [PATCH] loop: don't call vfs_flush() with queue frozen

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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 05:49:43AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 05:24:46PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > Please state the locks.  Nothing fs internal here, that report is
> > > about i_rwsem.  And a false positive because it is about ordering
> > > of i_rwsem on the upper file system sitting on the loop device vs the
> > > one on the lower file systems sitting below the block device.  These
> > > obviously can't deadlock, we just need to tell lockdep about that fact.
> > 
> > How can you guarantee that some code won't submit IO by grabbing the
> > i_rwsem?
> 
> ?  A lot of the I/O will grab i_rwsem on the underlying device.
> Basically all writes, and for many file systems also on reads.  But
> that is an entirely different i_rwsem as the one held the bio submitter
> as that is in different file system.  There is no way the top file
> system can lock i_rwsem on the lower file system except through the
> loop driver, and that always sits below the freeze protection.
> 
> > As I explained, it is fine to move out vfs_fsync() out of freeze queue.
> > 
> > Actually any lock which depends on freeze queue needs to take a careful
> > look, because freeze queue connects too many global/sub-system locks.
> 
> For block layer locks: absolutely.  For file systems lock: not at all,
> because we're talking about different file systems instances.  The only
> exception would be file systems taking global locks in the I/O path,
> but I sincerely hope no one does that.
 
Didn't you see the report on fs_reclaim and sysfs root lock?

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/197b07435a736825ab40dab8d91db031c7fce37e.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/


Thanks, 
Ming





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