Quoting Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Your ears are probably the best tool. Some hear well, and some
do not.
I am amazed at the number of people who cannot tell if mp3 has
ever been
in the mix. To me its obvious, when your ears get tired of it,
and want to
"change the station" in just a minute or so, its been an mp3
at some
point.
For crying out loud, stop this nonsense!
It is established without any shadow of a doubt that the overwhelming
majority of the population CANNOT tell the difference between a
reasonable bit-rate encoding in mp3 format and the original PCM data.
This isn't up for debate.
For crying out loud, stop this nonsense Paul!
Just because several people can't distinguish cheese made of raw milk
with cheese made from heated milk, doesn't mean that the tests are ok.
I'm unable to stand heated milk, I'm unable to stand cheese made from
heated mild and I'm unable to stand MP3. Yes, there are double-blind
tests that confirm that people guess the real taste of a strawberry is
the artificial taste and that the natural taste is artificial. IOW if
you make double-blind tests with degenerated idiots, the results will be
idiotic.
For crying out loud folks, stop arguing and test it yourselves!
Take a song or a snippet of a song, use the latest lame version and
compress it into different files using -V5 to -V1, load it up into
foobar ABX or squishyball or any other ABX program and see if you can
actually tell the compressed and uncompressed audio apart.
For the snippet I used I could tell the difference up to around
160kbps, after that it became pure guesswork.
I would be very suprised if the majority on this list could tell the
difference above 200kbps.
- Peder
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