2011-08-07 9:08 GMT+02:00 david <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > fred wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 06/08/2011 21:55, david a écrit : >>> >>> Jeremy Jongepier wrote: >>>> >>>> On 08/06/2011 07:09 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My 2¢: social media don't work for Linux Audio. I think the only thing >>>>>> that >>>>>> does work is good video tutorials, that's really big at the moment, >>>>>> good >>>>>> blogs and decent articles on authorative sites and in printed >>>>>> magazines. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think you really want to expand your understanding of what social >>>>> media is. All of the above except printed magazines is part of it :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Alexandre, >>>> >>>> You're right, I'm confusing social media and social networking services. >>>> I meant the latter. >>>> >>>>>> the other things are imho not useful. Twitter, Facebook, Google+ won't >>>>>> work, >>>>>> simply too much dispersion, people don't collaborate on these >>>>>> platforms, >>>>>> they only click on buttons and leave pointless comments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's quite an exxageration. >>>> >>>> >>>> I know. I've already replied to Rosea where that originates from. Next >>>> time I'll keep the whole picture in mind :) >>>> >>>> I do some techsupport for Inkscape, GIMP >>>>> >>>>> and Scribus via Twitter. It's actually useful for helping people solve >>>>> simple issues. That's not a direct marketing, but it helps preserving >>>>> user base. Of course, one could go beyond that. >>>>> >>>>>> I call BS, with the band I convinced the others to ditch Cubase in >>>>>> favor of >>>>>> Qtractor because every rehearsal session we were totally lost again on >>>>>> how >>>>>> to record a simple track. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You mean you didn't know how to use Cubase? :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Ha ha, yeah, that's true. We even borrowed a 300 page Cubase book from a >>>> friend but still we didn't manage. >>> >>> >>> Well, for comparison, I once tried to make a simple stereo recording >>> using Ardour, and was completely unable to figure it out. But pro-level >>> software is complex and assumes that its user has a lot of domain-specific >>> knowledge (is an experienced audio engineer). I don't fault the UI for that! >>> >> Ardour is a really step above Cubase... > > > I'm not the one who tried to use Cubase, so I'll take your word for it. > > > -- > David > gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > authenticity, honesty, community > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Hello dear all. First, my apologies for rescuing this thread from the sands of time of LAU. But I bumped into this working on some of my projects I'm struggling to bring to the (web)light at last, and those words from Jeremy and your responses totally resonate with me, and the concept seems to be present nowadays even when this thread goes back to 2011. I just wanted to let go some words about the subject. I think Tools don't make the Artist. But it's clear that it's really helpful when a really well known artist or a great mixer/producer shows up in a video using tool X (multifx, plugin, daw...). Because if they are good at what they do it usually seems it's so easy to do Y (play, mix, record...) with that tool that the tool itself benefits from that perception, and people think that is the tool that's making them do what they do. And big enterprises, of course, take advantage of this, along with beautiful eye-candy graphical interfaces. So if there is well produced quality material that demonstrate how to get an amazing guitar FX, how to easily record yourself in you're room, how to mix you're band... then people might get the seminal idea of "hey, this works", and after that maybe they might be interested in going a little deeper and getting to know that those tools also take care of their rights and freedom and all that philosophy we are already aware of. That is critical to be aware of: Humans hate or are not comfortable with changes, and non tech-savvy people usually just care about if it "just works", and much better if it has a nice GUI; and moreover if there's some neighbor/friend that can make them a copy of the tool and teach them how to use it. Word of mouth is of course invaluable. Modestly, I still trying to do what I can from various perspectives, and hopefully I'll be taking another further steps to give at least just a little back of all that I receive from so many talented people that free their knowledge... and their software and projects as well. It seems that even all of us along with many people in the FLOSS community still trying to go against the current, the established, the easy way, there's way to go. But, again, it feels that nowadays, given so many changes that are happening, there's another chance to make a shift. Still trying to think global and act local, and still trying to put my modest and tiny two cents. Sorry for that lengthy spiel. Thanks you all. -- C. sanchiavedraZ: * NEW / NUEVO: www.sanchiavedraZ.com * Musix GNU+Linux: www.musix.es _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user