On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 22:34 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 11:22:29PM +0100, Tim Goetze wrote: > > [Fons Adriaensen] > > >That means that when you put the bass off-center, your level > > >meters may well show 'out of balance', in particular if they > > >have a small range as e.g. a VU, during the entire song. > > >Many sound engineers probably dislike that, even if it does > > >no harm at all. > > > > They might dislike it because it implies the energy budget of the > > transmission isn't exploited maximally. :) > > Which leads to the question why they would care about the energy > budget if the information budget is used in such a suboptimal way > :-) Unfortunately people don't listen, they seem to watch music by meters and measuring instrument. There also is an issue with the gear, people care about technical specifications such as S/N ratio, klirr factor, linear frequency response. Those specifications are important for audio production, but usually a biased sound is wanted for listening to a record, CD, tape. Nobody is able to notice a less good S/N ratio or klirr factor when just listening, when not producing. Instead of using a nice biased record player, they prefer to listen to a CD player with better technical specification, but then they add insane equalizing and cheap reverbs to the output of those clean, cold CD players and kill the sound completely or they completely don't care and consume music where ever they are by earplugs or mobile phone speakers. Most of the times people seems to listen to music, just to have some background noise. Less people seem to listen to music in a way they would read a book. The gauge for the quality of the compositions nowadays seems to be tits and shaking asses. "How is the bass mixed? Per-channel frequency analysis? Histogram?" Who cares? How does it sound? Doesn't the faculty of hearing and individuell liking count anymore? I often get the impression that people do not want to learn how to listen and mix music anymore, but they want to have a norm and measuring instruments that does show when the mix does fit to the norm. Music is related to individuell liking and creativity, mixing is related to individuell liking and creativity. Sure, imitating a style is ok and good for learning. Is there an analysis tool, a meter to measure if the composition, coloration and the stroke of the brush of a painting does fit to a painting norm? There only is craftsmanship, e.g. different theories of colours, e.g. different positioning of the microphone techniques etc., but there is no limitation, it's good to know much about it, but also ok to break with it. Regarding to audio, measurement engineering is needed to maintain the equipment, but not to do a mix. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user