I want to chime in a last time. See the forwarded message. Please, talk to "mgavioli" and try to find a consensus. I've got the impression that this is possible. It's completely irrelevant what opinions we have got. _Neither anybodies opinion, nor mine is relevant and nothing more I wanted to say_! As so often: English isn't my native language, my English is completely broken. Is this understandable(?): "mgavioli" claims something and a presumption of innocence is good etiquette too. Isn't it? Or is it common sense to think the most worse first? Have a nice weekend! Ralf -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf To: linux-audio-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:52:05 +0200 On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:52 +0000, John Rigg wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > It's completely impossible to be on Fons site. When Fons has such a > > super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who forked > > Aeolus might have made a little mistake, but doesn't offend the licence. > > Ralf, please stop this straw man argument about the GPL. Fons is understandably > irritated by someone forking his project without prior discussion. It's a > question of etiquette, not licence terms, as has been pointed out repeatedly > in this thread. > > It isn't difficult to find out that Aeolus is currently maintained; all it > takes is a look at the README in the sources, which contains release dates. > The 2007 copyright date which I think was mentioned earlier (I'm not going to > re-read this whole sorry thread to confirm that) is the copyright date for > GPL 3, not Aeolus. Again, this stuff is not difficult to check. > > Another point: copyright and licence are separate things. It is possible to > violate a copyright while still complying with the GPL. Adding one's own > copyright notice to someone else's original work without making substantive > changes to the work may be such a violation (IANAL, so that's speculation). > > John Hi John, I won't discuss this anymore, even while I've got arguments for forgiving mistakes and finding a solution. Don't talk to me, talk to "mgavioli" at https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1 , explain him his mistake and see if he does offended/offences etiquette because he's evil, or because he made a mistake and what's his opinion about the "issue". All those threads perhaps are completely useless, when just talking to "mgavioli". He made a mistake? Ok! And now? Making it a drama while it might be easy to solve, by just talking to him? He might think he didn't made a mistake, so he perhaps won't contact somebody, but he perhaps will reply if Fons or you send a request. Why all this discussion with speculations instead of talking to the right person? "mgavioli" claims something and a presumption of innocence is good etiquette too. Isn't it? Or is it common sense to think the most worse first? Please, talk to "mgavioli" and try to find a consensus. Regards, Ralf _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user