On Monday 01 April 2013 19:37:44 jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx did opine: > Le 01-04-2013 09:58, Gene Heskett a أ©critآ : > > THE IMPORTANT PART of this msg: > > > > At the lumberyards, like Lowes or Home Depot, in the electrical > > aisle, they > > have shirt pocket sized electrical 'Sniffers" not much bigger than a > > pen or > > pencil. Often their power switch is the pocket clip, you grab the > > end and > > squeeze the clip shut, then the other end has a plastic coated blade, > > and > > it will trill like a canary & blink an LED you can see when that > > blade is > > within 1 to 2 inches of a live wire. > > > > They sell for something in the ten dollar range, very cheap for > > something > > that can save your life by finding hot stuff that isn't supposed to > > be, > > like your refrigerator, often installed within reach of the usually > > well > > grounded stuff of the kitchen sink? > > The reply was an entertaining read ! > > Now if I understood the above correctly, a hot device would be one from > which someone would get a shock by touching it, is it ? That depends to a surprising extent on the surroundings. If everything is hot, then so are you by capacitative coupling from the environment, so a shock is not real likely because the currant would have no place to go. OTOH, if standing on a metal railing that is grounded, and bare foot too, then touching anything electric without first probing it with one of these sniffers could be the last thing you touch. I have found also that even if the metal surfaces are well painted, you can often detect a hot item by touching it very gently with the back of your hand and sliding along it with the touch. A hot item will feel faintly as if its vibrating, whereas the properly grounded item will have no vibration as the back of the hand is brushed across it. HOWEVER, if there is even a remote possibility of more than the std 127 volts of AC in the area, I don't recommend it. If the paint has a pinhole, you can get a quite nasty buzz. In this regard, DC is the much more dangerous situation as you probably won't feel it until it has a good grip on you. IOW, get the sniffer AND learn how to use it, although that part isn't at all difficult. I don't care if you're flipping burgers at Mac's for minimum wage, it could save your life. Something else to consider is that there is a lethal "window" to the currant passing directly through the heart. It can develop a rhythm loss and go into fibrillation at currants above 20 micro amperes, a lethal situation because its just sitting there shaking without moving enough blood to sustain life. You have maybe 1 long minute to get that fixed else brain damage is bound to occur. This can happen at currants so low you may not even feel the shock. And the defib machine paddles will be needed a very large percentage of the time as its a condition that isn't self fixing. The shock from the defib paddles works by momentarily freezing the heart, and when it next beats it will beat in unison with itself. Most of the time... If not, the techs will let it charge again, and slap you 2x harder, wash, rinse & repeat until you are either running, or the machine has hit you with its max jolt quite a few times. Going up in currant, at currants above 20 milliamperes the heart just freezes. There, you have that same long minute to remove the shock before brain damage will set in, but when the currant is removed, the heart usually starts right back up and goes about its business as if nothing happened. Typically the major after effects of that will be caring for the 2nd degree burns it causes, and often, because your immune system has been knocked around pretty badly, a few days later a session of the shingles will set in for about a 2 month visit. BTDT, ain't no way in hell you could call _that_ fun. This sniffer I preach about doesn't work well for high voltage DC, beeping once or twice as its brought near, and one or 2 times as its pulled away. The characteristic coaches whistle trill they do is because the AC field is turning it on and off at 50 or 60 hertz. But high voltage DC isn't normally a worry for the general public except around high power broadcast transmitters, some of which use over 20,000 volts. And TBT, I don't often write this stuff for its entertainment value, it is supposed to be educational. If I throw in a little humor, its as much to keep you reading as for the humor in it. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> is up! My views <http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml> What about WRITING it first and rationalizing it afterwords? :-) -- Larry Wall in <8162@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
