On Sat, February 23, 2013 4:07 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 07:50 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote: >> > On 02/22/2013 04:00 AM, david wrote: >> > >> > > XFCE4 works here for me >> > > ... >> > >> > >> > Ditto, on three systems (two Ubuntu 12.04, one Arch). > > On an updated Arch I'm experiencing similar issues as for an updated > Ubunt Quantal now. > Note, that I don't get those issues for my not updated Ubuntu Precise. I personally have less problems with quantal, but my usage is probably not the same. > I'm not aware what does cause this issue, but I first experienced it > with Ubuntu Quantal. When I want to edit settings for Xfce4 or Evolution > in Quantal I often have to delete ~/.cache, then it does work. This is a > known bug, many people experience on Xubuntu user mailing list. I have not had problems with xfce4 settings at all, but I seem to remember you having problems with alacarte. Alacarte is not a great menu editing tool. Menu editing should be possible far beyond what alacarte does and if it was my decision, I would not include it. It's restore to system default does not work either. This is a problem with the alacarte application, not quantal itself. There are not only files in in ~/.config, but also ~/.local. Should I run out of other projects and feel bored, I might make an alacarte replacement... If by then we are still using the XDG standard or in fact (given the direction DEs are going), have menus at all. In the case of alacarte I would suggest hand editing the files. Yes this means going through the learning curve needed to do so, but I am not aware of any alternative at the moment. > > On Arch I need(ed) to edit some settings, especially the username for a > POP access of an new account. I can't change a typo, the edited username > will be reset to the username with the typo, even if I delete ./cache > first. > > I directly edited the configuration files in > /home/rocketmouse/.config/evolution/sources/*@archlinux.source > after deleting ~/.cache, but when opening Evolution, those settings are > ignored, they must be archived somewhere else. There's nothing in /tmp > and again, ~/.cache was deleted. > > The only good news is, that after deleting the cache and editing the > configuration files with an editor _+ a reboot_, Evolution does use the > new settings. >From all of this, I am getting that there is a problem with evolution. I can't really comment as I don't use it at all, in fact it doesn't come with UbuntuStudio. I use a web based mail client because I use more than one computer and I have found it useful to be able to deal with my folders on more than one machine or from more than one boot even on the same machine. In my case I have control of the server the mail client is on. If it was not so I would probably go for a local client. > known bug for Xubuntu Quantal, other people experience too, even for > Xfce menu settings etc.. This wording is confusing as the problems seem to be application specific rather than distro specific. Naming the distro is helpful as it says what version the application with problems is. I don't think there is much you can do about alacarte, though the return to system default may be considered a bug, but in the case of evolution bug reporting should help. I would take look at the release notes though, in case a new version of evolution has made a non-upgradable change in config files or something like that. > At least I don't get the performance issues on Arch, that I get for > Quantal. Performance? Now there is a loaded word. Does performance mean low latency or high throughput? The two are not both available at the same time... Or maybe it means something quite different. Personally, I have not had any "performance" issues. For a good discussion on performance read some of George Buehler's writing (it's about boats, but I think it applies to life in general). http://www.georgebuehler.com/summ.html Look for the performance section. Anyway I would suggest not using the word performance at all, but rather describing what it is you feel your system is lacking and how you think it should work. Not just speed, but speed of what? For example, with my current quantal setup I can get better low latency performance. However, if I use that performance, my desktop is slower.... That is the compromise I make. -- Len Ovens www.OvenWerks.net _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user