On 02/25/2012 03:10 AM, hermann wrote:
Am Samstag, den 25.02.2012, 13:58 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 13:44 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 12:00 +0000,
linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
what did you suspect here ?
Users are always welcome to give feedback, suggestions, or at least,
become a part of the project. That is what FLOSS is about. FLOSS isn't
about to present you a OS on a silver tablet, FLOSS will always force
you to make it work. It is community based. If you didn't help, the
community get a bit smaller, and a piece of work fail.
what did you think why a developer develop Free Open Software ?
And what did you think why a debian maintainer do what he do ?
Do you believe they do it to suite there ego's ?
I started the translation of Qtractor a month ago and due to issues such
as pulseaudio and the dropped nv driver (and some other issues) I can't
contribute, continue translating, but just fix issues, hence my only
contribution could be to set up machines for users who are willing to
learn, but are unable to learn all things at the same time, for their
first Linux install. At least distros shouldn't do a default install
with 3D effects enabled DEs and than install the nouveau driver by
default if a NVIDIA graphics was detected. A 2D desktop and the vesa
driver would allow beginners to get their first install working OOTB and
to learn how to maintain their own machine. Btw. some distros don't
install bryltty by default. Nowadays only 3D DEs count.
That's a step in the wrong direction.
Regards,
Ralf
PS: Some people are willing to help unpaid for social projects. They
contribute by giving e.g. medical help to children in the Third World.
It would be nice if they don't need to use Apple or Microsoft, but
instead could use a Linux that works OOTB. They don't contribute by
maintaining Linux, they don't have knowledge how to maintain a tool such
as a computer, but they contribute to the human race.
Everything that goes around, comes around ;).
It's narrow-minded to limit the cycle to Linux only.
:p
Absolutely true, but, for that case you didn't need a linux derivation
witch is mean as a development base. Simply select a stable branch for
that and be done. Then, you didn't need to know anything about linux to
use it.
So, your points may all be true, but, they all forget the point that
debian/sid isn't a distribution. If you like to use blending age
software, witch is clear stated as developer version, on a outdated
mobo, you have to count with problems.
Also, I wasn't able to found a single request on any official debian
site (bug report or wish liste) witch ask for get back the nv driver.
The last time I filed an official bug report on Debian, the report was
closed with the message: "Upgrade and see if that fixes it." IOW, we're
not interested in fixing it, we're not going to fix it, we're not even
going to figure if we've unintentionally fixed it.
I get better response from bug reports on particular apps.
--
David
gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
authenticity, honesty, community
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