On Monday 11 July 2011 23:00:38 S. Massy wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03:22PM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote: > > On Monday 11 July 2011 21:43:41 Folderol wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:04:44 -0400 > > > > > > "S. Massy" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I won't jump into this fray of art vs. technique, as its just too > > > > dicey. I agree with you, Fons, on the distortion introduced by > > > > limiting; but do you have any theory as to why most people actually > > > > seem to like it? My experience is that people seem to feel lightly > > > > compressed, open mixes are weak, but will take to a "brutalised" mix > > > > enthusiastically. Do you have a theory? Also, aren't we a bit of a > > > > slave to whatever people happen to like, however much we might feel > > > > it is inferior? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > S.M. > > > > > > I wonder if it is simply the fact that the distortion gives us a clue > > > that the equipment is working as hard as it can. I've noticed that > > > Fuzz on a guitar seems to make it sound louder than a clean signal > > > that is actually a far higher amplitude. More 'width' seems to > > > outweigh more 'height'. > > > > I think (at least) for distorted guitars its the amount of > > high-frequencies that counts to our ears. Pure amplitude isn't > > everything, you have to look at the level per (logarithmic) frequency > > band. White noise "sounds" louder than pink or brown noise too. > > But you can't compare electric guitar distortion with the kind of > distortion we're talking about here. Yes, I can :-) I didn't talk about harmonics vs non.harmonics. I talked about additional high-frequencies in general. For the power/freq its not important if its the 8th-harmonic or the 7.57357842th harmonic. But for the perceived loudness is influenced by this. Whether its pleasant to hear or not is on a different page. Have fun, Arnold
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