On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 21:00 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > I'm on a ardour 2.8.11-setup and I'm looking for the best possible limiter. > > Rest of my plugin-use is linuxdsp and some calf, so I need a good limiter to > > be able to crank it all up a notch compressionwise. I'm currently using TAP > > Scalinglimiter, which is the best one I've found yet that dont give me > > zippernoise etc, but I can't push that limiter as far as I want without > > artifacts in the sound etc. > > > > Do you guys have some tips? I'd be most grateful! > > Every time I read a post like this (no offense intented to the > poster), there is this desire creeping up my back to write a > decent peak limiter, or just release the things I already have. > > What stops me is the simple fact that by doing that I'd be > contributing to the IMHO completely misguided and even stupid > fashion of increasing the apparent loudness of recordings by > any means, at the expense of sound quality. Simple fact is this: > if it isn't loud enough, turn up the volume. The result will be > vastly superior to what you can achieve by squeezing dynamics > to death. > > Regarding ScalingLimiter, I wonder how many peope are actually > aware of what it is doing. Which is to measure the peak level > of segments delimited by zero crossings and then apply a > constant gain factor to each segment to adjust its peak level > to close to the maximum. The idea seems to be that changing gain > at a zero crossing doesn't introduce distortion. Which is wrong, > it does generate gross amounts of intermodulation distortion, > just having less HF energy than when switching gain at random > points. This makes a complete joke of whatever follows in the > reproduction chain - you could as well use the worst amplifier > (in terms of IM distortion) you can find and things wouldn't > sound any different. > > Ciao, I agree with Fons, in that we should not be crushing recordings and over-compressing them. But having said that, a limiter is a very useful and necessary tool at times. I would love to see what sort of limiter that a talented programmer like Fons offers. In lieu of that, Steve Harris has a fast-look-ahead-limiter which is good. It's in JAMIN, and also available as a separate stand-alone plugin. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
