Re: Pipe not working - or is it lame or oggdec

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Simon Wise wrote:
On 05/05/11 00:28, Daniel Worth wrote:
I think as long as people are aware at what point they need to license the patent then they should be fine. If you are making $100,000+ a year from my
music a $2,000 per year fee isn't the end of the world. Likely if you are
generating that kind of income you can partner with a distributor who pays
this fee for you and so it isn't actually and issue either way.

Consider a fictional band working here in Australia, trying to get to the point they may be able to actually pay themselves more than a bit of beer money, or perhaps even interest the distributor mentioned above. 5 musicians, doing some live gigs, sometimes touring interstate, paying for someone to mix and the travel costs from the fees they are paid before they get to pay themselves. They rent a place to rehearse, covering some of that rent by sharing it with other bands who pay them when the need it. They have some merchandise and cds they are selling at gigs etc, and are using that revenue to pay for studio time and someone to record them. To make some live opportunities for themselves they organise some events where they hire the venue and pay the technical costs, as well as organising several other bands to play, they pay these costs out of the door takings, and pay themselves and the other bands a split of what is left.

The band will quite easily be over the $100,000 revenue while they are just earning pocket money as actual income for themselves. That $2000 would be much more usefully spent paying an engineer to help get a recording done than paying for the right to have mp3s on their laptop to play (or send) to someone who may be interested in their work.

Mostly such a group chooses the 'pirate' path, but perhaps it's more in their interests to use a format that isn't considered illegal here without the $2000 payment to an organisation who are paying their employees and shareholders much more than pocket money.

Way back when I was in high school, there was a 7-man local band in my home town that was regularly taking in about US$100000 per year playing clubs, appearing as opening acts for touring name bands, doing small local tours, etc. This was in the pre-digital days, so they had no CDs or downloads or even tapes for sale. Their live show was an entertaining blast, so wherever they played, they got a good crowd.

$100000 divided by 7 = about $14,286 per year per person. I don't know what their net (if any) was, but that wasn't much to live on even back in the early 70s.

There's a good Celtic band here in Hawaii, Celtic Wave. They play 3-5 nights a week in local clubs, have a CD for sale, etc. To stay alive, they all do other things, too - teach music, work other jobs, etc. I have no idea how much they make. But present-day Hawaii is a LOT more expensive place to live than early 1970's northern California!

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