Re: Sample converters

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On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Q <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Q <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, you can do basically the same thing on Linux using
>>>>> Synthclone
>>>>> (http://code.google.com/p/synthclone/).
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>> As for converting VSTi's, whilst what Paul says about it being an API is
>>> true, it depends on the VSTi as there are many which are basically just
>>> sample players with a few filter effects added on. There are a few
>>> Mellotron
>>> ones which spring to mind. Hell, that's what the GForce M-Tron, M-Tron
>>> Pro
>>> and Virtual String Machine (ARP Solina et al) are, with huge great sample
>>> libraries attached.
>>
>> I've never even seen a real Solina so I didn't know how to compare.
>> The sounds are nice enough for what it is so for me it's great.
>>
>> I think if the software above could be set up to run unassisted,
>> sampling ever note at lots of velocities, etc., then someone would be
>> on their way to an easy gig file like the SampleTekk stuff without all
>> the hassle folks went through in the past.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>
> Well, maybe less hassle in producing a gigfile in that way, but a whole
> world of pain when the lawyers come knocking on your door for having ripped
> off someone else's samples and repackaging them :-)
>
> I suppose if you do it for yourself and don't ever redistribute no-one would
> be any the wiser.
>
> But seriously, having recently created umpteen simple gigfiles from scratch
> (with limited range of notes and no velocity layers), I can see your point
> -- creating those things takes a lot of hard work and skill. Which makes me
> even more incredulous at the cheapness at which some are sold in sales.
>
> If/when Giga finally dies, it would be a shame for all that work to go down
> the pan when such effort has gone into skillfully sampling those instruments
> and conversion is a way that those sampled instruments (for I think they
> have a character in their own right) might live on, even if only privately
> for one user.
>
> Q
>
Yeah, there is that, but in the case I'm thinking of there's not
really any 'ripoff' of the samples because you record the audio, not
steal the data file itself.

Granted, if the whole thing stays inside the computer then it's
questionable, but you could do something simple the the audio, like
add a very little bit of EQ/compression, etc., and the wave files are
changed.

To me it isn't really any different than sampling ha hardware synth as
long as you don't look directly at the original digital data, but
that's just me...

Giga is dead, but the format isn't. IT will live on in other samplers
simply because it's the biggest selling format of this type so far.
(TTBOMK)

Cheers,
Mark
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