On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:40:11AM +0100, Renato Budinich wrote: > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Louigi Verona <louigi.verona@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > > > "The real work is in collecting and organizing the music, and organizing > > your controller's workflow to make performance smooth and interesting, as > > Moldover has done." > > > > I wish that was true, but I understand what Renato says about diving into > > technical details and spending more time programming or configuring things > > rather than working on music. Organizing is important, but when Sooperlooper > > simply does not display what loop is being played and you need around 20 > > loops at the very least when 4 already take up the whole screen - > > Sooperlooper's ability to be controllerism software, which requires clarity > > of interface and quick workflow, becomes too theoretical. > > > > I absolutely do not want to say that Linux software is not capable of > > providing controllerism in question, but at the moment - let's say, it is > > not trivial. And for a musician who is not a programmer - basically, close > > to impossible. > > > > I would love to be proven wrong, because then I would use this solution on > > Linux myself. But at the moment all discussions along the lines of "You > > could just as easily do some controllerism stuff with a hacked Novation of > > your own, or an Arduino, or a Monome, and just about any looper" feel like > > the person who is saying it did not really try. Especially, the word > > "easily" grates on the ears. > > > > =) > > > > -- > > Louigi Verona > > http://www.louigiverona.ru/ > > > > > > I understand your point Louigi. OTOH this controllerism-type of thing > seems a rather new approach to music, and quite a radical one. All of > the artists mentioned in this thread have actually done a lot of work > themselves to "bend" equipment and software. > > If you want to make something similar, I think you should put into > account spending much time with design AND technical issues, be it > windows or linux > > anyway, cyclone looks good, I will try it. One thing I want to > experiment is using seq24 to control sooperlooper/cyclone > That's pretty much what I was trying to say. No matter what your tools choice is, to do something at the quality level of Moldover or other loop-meisters, the hours messing around with the tools and getting them set up will be nothing compared to the hours of music selection, processing, cutting, arranging, composing-- just as with creating any other kind of composition--, and also the many hours of practice and committing your performance to muscle memory-- just as is required to master any other instrument. "Easy" was probably the wrong word to use-- especially in the context of anything to do with Linux :-). My apologies. -ken _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
