On Sun, November 7, 2010 3:29 pm, fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 02:52:57PM -0800, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >> On Sun, November 7, 2010 4:11 am, Sampo Savolainen wrote: >> >> > In your shoes, I'd measure the playback system and try to pinpoint the >> > part which is causing the distortion. If you tweak your mix to sound >> > good with the distortion your current system exhibits, the mix will >> not >> > sound like that anywhere else. So to make your mix sound good >> > everywhere, you have to have a clean setup as a reference. >> > >> > (Note the word measure: this is the only way to get any sort of >> > objective results. ) >> >> Ideally I would have some very good speakers to do this step but that is >> not currently possible for me. > > You don't need very good speakers to do this. In fact it's more > difficult the better your gear is. > > Most probably you have some distortion when playing back high > (digital) levels. This could be your sound card, or anything > after it in the signal chain. > > If it's your sound card, the reason could be too high analog > gains (set either by the mixer app, or by HW controls), or > just the card being crap. It's easy to test, and resolving > this issue would clear up at least part of the fog. > I have uploaded a new mixdown which I think is the cleanest and most psychedelic version so far. http://djcj.org/audio/kotau/abundance/ I think this version proves that the exporter in ardour3 is not adding any distortion, my sound cards are not broken and that spending some quality time on the levels is a worthwhile exercise. While the latter is a time consuming process ardour3 does provide the tools to get the job done. I found myself looking at the levels on one monitor and adjusting the region gain and track fader curves on the other. It would be a much faster process if there was a visual reference on the track editor for every peak that manages to go over 0db. Cheers. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd. "This is the basis of the Bohm interpretation of quantum mechanics, which requires that all particles in the universe be able to instantaneously exchange information with all others." _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user