On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:13:05 -0400 drew Roberts <zotz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thursday 04 November 2010 10:43:12 you wrote: > > Hi Drew, > > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:12:57 -0400 > > > > drew Roberts <zotz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 03 November 2010 19:28:29 Leigh Dyer wrote: > > > > I don't think there's any point worrying about music production > > > > getting "too easy" or "too accessible" -- the ship probably > > > > sailed on that when Tascam released the Portastudio, or when > > > > Dave Smith and friends created MIDI. People have been making > > > > trite music with the best equipment money can by for years, and > > > > others have been making interesting music with toys and junk > > > > for just as long. If this helps people express musical ideas > > > > that they'd been unable to express beforehand, then that's > > > > fantastic. > > > > > > To me, one of the problems comes down to the split between musical > > > appreciation and creation and the technical abilities needed to > > > perform what is imagined / conceived. > > > > > > Imagine if a novelist or poet had to practice for years to gain > > > mastery over the pencil or keyboard in the same way a musician > > > has to practice to gain mastery over their instrument. > > > > I see that analogy as very fitting but the conclusion as simply > > wrong. A novelist or poet does, indeed, spend years (a lifetime > > even) gaining a mastery of not only the "pencil", > > I don't agree with this but let's remove even that and give them a > personal recorder and a secretary to transcribe what they have > written. So, the pencil mastery is no longer needed. Even still, it isn't simply learning how to write and my blurb may have focused to much on that. Nevertheless, you can't dictate a novel if you don't know the words or how to use them correctly. > > > but also the words and sentence > > structure. > > But this is more parallel to the music side of things and not the > mastery of the instrument side of things surely? Is it? I find them intimately connected. Music is a language and everything that applies to learning to communicate with words and speech can be transferred to learning to communicate thorough music. ... but I do understand your point. > > > My 8-year old daughter will attest to the difficulty > > involved and the years it takes to master moving her writing > > instrument to produce the correct glyph--not to mention putting all > > those glyphs together to form words, sentences and ultimately a > > coherent story that expresses her intent. > > Well, my son had enough facility with the crayon to make letters from > a very early age. As did my daughter, but she wasn't writing a phd thesis nor an opera. > > And again, isn't the rest more on the music side of things as I > mention above? Again, I understand what you are talking about. > > > > > Tech that makes it easier to produce what is conceived are no more > > > dangerous to good music than is to move to a pencil from a stone > > > chisel and hammer. > > > > This is agree with wholeheartedly. > > Indeed. > > And yet I think we often have a fear of this and think it might give > someone a mastery over the other side. It is as if e fear excellent > voice recognition software will let anyone write the next great > novel. Probably mostly when we are not thinking clearly but the fear > seems to find expression often enough. true, but also a bit of jealousy, no? Why should someone with no musical skills other than the ability to operate computer software be able to travel the same path as a someone trained for decades? but I digress... David _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
