Re: re Subconscious Affecting Music

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On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:11:54AM -0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
> On Mon, August 30, 2010 3:57 am, Julien Claassen wrote:
> > greetings!
> >    And another thought: Of course most pop music is created to be
> > consumed, as
> > the baisc intention. Maybe not most, but a good deal. Still: I see it
> > partly
> > as a result of the society itself. They only will produce en mass, what is
> > liable to be sold well. If you consider that most of the music us
> > westerness
> > lsiten to and export worldwide, then I can see reasons for it sounding
> > aggressive. We are more and more in a hurry, supressed by a lot of
> > obligations. If you look around, certainly if I do, all people have to
> > work as
> > hard as they can, still fearing to be unemployed quite soon. Then they
> > have to
> > perform a lot tasks in their households and neighbourhoods, which they
> > can't
> > afford to let someone else do, because of money being short. I'm talking
> > repairs, renovations, taking care of families and friends in a way, they
> > might
> > not do if money wasn't that short. Or they would cut on their work and use
> > more spare time, so they can actually relax a little. Don't you think,
> > that
> > this stores up energy, frustration, that you need to deposite somewhere?
> > If
> > you can listen to some music, tat helps you "sweat" it out, if you can
> > dance
> > to it, I think it's much healthier, than finally breaking down or turning
> > to
> > real acted-out violence.
> >    Again this doesn't apply to everyone, some will turn to the aggression
> > advertised or animated. But again more will use that way to blow of some
> > steam
> > and feel better afterwards.
> >    While talking of clubs; I don't need intelligent music or music that
> > touches
> > a certain side of myself. I need music, that I can move to. Granted, I
> > would
> > VERY rarely see a real club, because it would be too loud and too
> > expensive. I
> > have all the music I need at home. :-)
> >    Kindly yours
> >            Julien
> >
> 
> While your observation is certainly a desirable aspect of healthy
> consumption of art and culture, IMO we are also being subjected to a form
> of attack that is attempting to perpetuate the psychological oppression
> that forces us as a global mass to accept the status quo and allow it to
> control the direction of our lives and the events that are forced upon us
> as a global community.
> 
> The highly aggressive and purely sexualised music forced upon us at every
> opportunity by the mass media is a reaction to the oppression that we are
> placed under and is actively promoted as a means of keeping us
> subconsciously subdued and fighting to keep our heads above water with the
> odds stacked against us resulting in the cycle being continued between
> each new generation. We are being conditioned to accept the system of
> abuse from the day we are born by the relentless attack on our
> subconscious from the mass media and the industry that supports it.
> 
> Hence I feel it is important for us to not only create art that is
> challenging but to also take on the industry at it's own game with
> subversive production turning their techniques against them.
> 
> 
> 

"Us"?

It's your idea, not anyone else's.

Sounds like a good one too.

Go for it; I'd be eager to hear what you come up with. From your specification, I'd guess is that it'd end up sounding a lot like 1979-era Dead Kennedy's, or maybe 1977-era DEVO, which would be fantastic.

-ken
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