Re: re Subconscious Affecting Music

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Am 30.08.2010 07:21, schrieb Patrick Shirkey:

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Hence I feel it is a worthwhile use of time, resources and energy to at
least try to counter the damage being done by the affect of what is
currently considered to be acceptable standards in pop music construction
on the greater consciousness.

For example IMO the song "Bang Bang Bang" by Mark Ronson with QTip and MDNR

http://vimeo.com/12581076

is a good attempt at a subversive attack on modern pop and the
subconscious mind of the listener but I feel it misses the mark by being
too well produced, having lyrics that are too abstract and complex and
having performers who are too good at their art and not attractive enough
for the market.

The song is nice, good OKayish pop that is welcome to me if played on the radio. I do not find it too subversive though. People that are conformist consumers can consume this as well. I do not understand the lyrics too well and cannot find them as text so it may be, that they make the tune really subversive in a way.

But I do not think, that you talk about the lyrics here. You mean, there is something physical in the music that performs some influence on the minds of the listeners.

Such effects are curiosities at best: nobody changes the way people think using some frequencies or rhythm-patterns.

Music can change your mind as it is a way to communicate. It is a language that has means to go beyond the capabilities of mere speech. But the same as speech it relies on a socio-cultural context.

If a person living in a slum in Africa listenes to a song, he or she may come to the decision: "Im not gonna take it anymore - see my children die of curable deseases, being robbed by corrupt authorities. No more!" Listening to the song can result in open rebellion,riots, revolution. Communication amplified by music.

If you or I listen to the very same song, we may swing our hips a little and I would say: OK another nice world-music tune, not my cup of coffe anyway but nice...

It's economics, reccources, status - no frequency can change the social conditions under wich you live.

It's a delicate balance because it requires a complete commitment to
selling out and producing what most artists would consider total crap.
With the exception of having actually got into people heads directly and
as efficiently as possible.

Music that can help to make people think about their lives must be authentic. An artist that is willing to give his/her audience genuine art can create a positive effect in a socio-cultural context. An artist, that betrays his/her vision on art cannot create anything beyond a consumable product that says and signifies nothing.

Frequencies and patterns are just tools. If a certain combination of frequencies fits you vison, use them. If not: avoid them. Everything else is abuse.

best regs

HZN/Berlin

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