On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 09:52 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 10.05.2010 03:00, schrieb Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: > > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 18:23 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Now that would be shocking I'd say. Since Suse 8.0 the ICE1712 > >> was > >> always the most reliable chipset one could possibly find for > >> Linux. So > >> that would be a major regression and should be a show-stopper > >> for alsa. > >> > >> BUT: the link points to a bug that affects puls audio and it > >> affects it > >> with a EWS88MT wich is one of the not-so typical ICE1712-cards > >> like the > >> EWX or the MAudio Audiophile and Delta-Series. > >> > >> So how about these cards and alsa/jack? Any trouble out there > >> with > >> bleeding-edge distros? > >> > >> > >> my reading of this (and the related ALSA bug report) is that this is a > >> Pulse-only bug, because its related to Pulse's attempt to provide a > >> mapping of whatever-it-is-that-the-hw-provides into > >> standard-things-that-users-can-know-and-love. > >> > >> JACK will just use the channels as single, undifferentiated channels > >> and doesn't care about their names, function,etc. etc. > >> > >> i could be wrong in my assessment. > > > > I think you are correct. Pulse points to alsa as the culprit, alsa > > ignores the issue, it may _not_ be an issue for alsa, I don't know. > > > I agree with Paul. This is a problem with PA, alsa works as expected and > perfectly OK with the envy24-chipset. > Even if one likes to call it a "bug" that alsa presents all envy24-cards > more or less the same though they are physically quiet different, I > would call this a minor flaw since technically there is nothing broken here. > > Reading the thread on the PA-site I feel a bit uneasy. Lennart demands > alsa to report a "front"-device wich is nonsense since AFAIK only the > terratec 5.1 uses the envy24-chipset to produce a set of outputs for > surround-speakers. All others are cards for musicians delivering 2+2, > 4+2 ore more analogue/digital i/o ports that are all considered the > same, delivering a pristine hifi-signal that the user is invited to send > whatever source he/she likes to send to. > > What will PA do with a Delta 10x10? Trying to send "front" to the first > 2, "rear" to the next 2, a lowpassed "sub" to the fith and then what? > > Why cant PA just offer a stereo-out for the first 2 ports of the envy > and secondary stereo-outs for the rest plus a digital-out for the > spdif-ports on these cards? Do they consider users, that spend quite > some money on such a card, too stupid to find out, why the secondary > stereo-outs do not deliver a signal with a MAudio audiophile? > And NO! I would NOT consider it a progress, if alsa would start to tell > me, that the first two ports of my MAudio would be "front-speaker-outs" > for they are not. > > This musing about "broken" alsa-drivers that need to be "fixed" in the > thread at PA increases the bad feeling about PA's relation and awarenes > to pro-audio. Or Lennart is just right and the driver in ALSA is not what it should be for this card. \r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
