-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 10.05.2010 03:00, schrieb Fernando Lopez-Lezcano: > On Sat, 2010-05-08 at 18:23 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: >> >> >> >> Now that would be shocking I'd say. Since Suse 8.0 the ICE1712 >> was >> always the most reliable chipset one could possibly find for >> Linux. So >> that would be a major regression and should be a show-stopper >> for alsa. >> >> BUT: the link points to a bug that affects puls audio and it >> affects it >> with a EWS88MT wich is one of the not-so typical ICE1712-cards >> like the >> EWX or the MAudio Audiophile and Delta-Series. >> >> So how about these cards and alsa/jack? Any trouble out there >> with >> bleeding-edge distros? >> >> >> my reading of this (and the related ALSA bug report) is that this is a >> Pulse-only bug, because its related to Pulse's attempt to provide a >> mapping of whatever-it-is-that-the-hw-provides into >> standard-things-that-users-can-know-and-love. >> >> JACK will just use the channels as single, undifferentiated channels >> and doesn't care about their names, function,etc. etc. >> >> i could be wrong in my assessment. > > I think you are correct. Pulse points to alsa as the culprit, alsa > ignores the issue, it may _not_ be an issue for alsa, I don't know. I agree with Paul. This is a problem with PA, alsa works as expected and perfectly OK with the envy24-chipset. Even if one likes to call it a "bug" that alsa presents all envy24-cards more or less the same though they are physically quiet different, I would call this a minor flaw since technically there is nothing broken here. Reading the thread on the PA-site I feel a bit uneasy. Lennart demands alsa to report a "front"-device wich is nonsense since AFAIK only the terratec 5.1 uses the envy24-chipset to produce a set of outputs for surround-speakers. All others are cards for musicians delivering 2+2, 4+2 ore more analogue/digital i/o ports that are all considered the same, delivering a pristine hifi-signal that the user is invited to send whatever source he/she likes to send to. What will PA do with a Delta 10x10? Trying to send "front" to the first 2, "rear" to the next 2, a lowpassed "sub" to the fith and then what? Why cant PA just offer a stereo-out for the first 2 ports of the envy and secondary stereo-outs for the rest plus a digital-out for the spdif-ports on these cards? Do they consider users, that spend quite some money on such a card, too stupid to find out, why the secondary stereo-outs do not deliver a signal with a MAudio audiophile? And NO! I would NOT consider it a progress, if alsa would start to tell me, that the first two ports of my MAudio would be "front-speaker-outs" for they are not. This musing about "broken" alsa-drivers that need to be "fixed" in the thread at PA increases the bad feeling about PA's relation and awarenes to pro-audio. best regs HZN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvnuzUACgkQ1Aecwva1SWNRYgCfWBDXEpEpjewpavhdYsP0ub0j ZV4AnR/tH6Gxee3aoYHErwJP/8IxpTpr =5fsK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
