On Saturday 13 March 2010 06:54:09 Nils Hammerfest wrote: > On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:29:29 +0100 Nils, it sounds like you are speaking about cc BY-SA. (My personal pick.) There are others which do not behave as you describe. BY - sort of like the the BSD. *Not copyleft* Free though. BY-SA - sort of like the GPL. Copyleft. Free - obviously if like me you consider copyleft a subset of Free. Something cc tends to confuse for people. BY-NC - can do a lot of things with the music but not primarily for commercial purposes. (Confusing.) BY-NC-SA - Do a lot of things but use the same license. BY-ND - You can't make any derivatives at all under this license. > > Atte André Jensen <atte.jensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi > > > > I don't understand the CC license at all. I could dig through a jungle > > starting with google, and I *have* read and understood the basics > > regarding CC. I'm hoping for some personal experiences in plain > > language. Here goes: Hi Atte. (and others.) A couple of things on this first pass: I wrote this up early last year: drew's Guide To Choosing A License For Your Kompoz Project http://www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/storyId-1027/p-drew_s_Guide_To_Choosing_A_License_For_Your_Kompoz_Project/view.story.blog And I have started and contributed to these pages at Packet In's site: Income: http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Income Promotion: http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Promotion The income page links to: How To Get Paid For Copyleft Art : http://www.robmyers.org/wiki/index.php/How_To_Get_Paid_For_Copyleft_Art Which might also be of interest. > > First: CC is not CC. There is the "Name Author and Origin" switch and the > "Commercial" switch, too. The last one is important if you aim to > > > 1) What's the advantages for the artist with CC compared to "All rights > > reserved". > > The music becomes more widespread making you more known and famous. And > because its ideologically good your reputation shifts toward the "good side > of the force" making it more likely that your music encourages the > production of Remixes. For me it exactly what I want because my marketing > strategy is "Get known, make money with live-music, merchandise and other > ways except selling the music as a product". > > It also forces any people who use your music to produce > samplers/compilations, remixes etc. to release it under the same license. > This is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and ensures the freedom is granted. > > > 2) What's the disadvantages for the artist with CC compared to "All > > rights reserved". > > You cannot sell your music as a product (CDs, Digital Download, DRM) > anymore. Of course technically you could but it makes no sense if the music > is also available for free. It also forces any people who use your music to > produce samplers, remixes etc. to release it under the same license. This > is the same Copyleft as in the GPL and makes it unlikely that you will get > you music on any commercial samplers/compilation, except you grant special > licenses. > > > 3) What's the advantages for the consumer with CC compared to "All > > rights reserved". > > In reality its basically means its free of cost, you can share it and its > all legal. You can do whatever you want with the music, remix it sell the > remix (if the license is *-sa) etc. > > > I assume there's no disadvantages for the customer with CC... > > You cannot just take the CC-music and produce a closed, copyleft-free new > derived work. But well, this is not "consumer"... if there is a border > between consumer and producer anymore. There are some games to be played to do an end run around any cc license and force a statutory license on a person no matter what they want. Of course, this same end run exists for "All rights reserved" plans as well. > > > Nils > http://www.denemo.org > > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > > > -- > > Atte > > > > http://atte.dk http://modlys.dk all the best, drew _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user