On Monday 15 June 2009 05.52.23 carmen wrote:
> > Many people (including me) are using KDE4 and it's very clean and user
> > centric
>
> i found it overtly hostile to basic tasks, like finding a web browser in an
> app menu
>
> plus it caused the boot-to-GUI proces to take 3 minutes
20 seconds here! :-)
> > no problem. Why do some people still have problem using an app just
> > because it's a QT or KDE app? I don't get that.
>
> because, at least on Gentoo, it requires compiling all of KDE and QT,
> which can be a multi-day affair (compare w/ 5 seconds for dwm, 10 mins for
> xorg, and 15 for webkit, a 'WebOS' system in a half hour)
This is not a problem on *Ubuntus, Fedoras and other mainstream distros, it's
already compiled. I used LFS (manuell compilationa as oposite to Gentoo)
several years, and when I compiled apps like QT, I just did something else in
the meantime, like working, sleeping or whatever.
>
> then when you launch a KDElibs app, it launches 10 odd daemons, kdeserver,
> dcop, etcetc, sucking 200 MB of ram
>
> > Messy? No way!
>
> the hodgepodge of panels and default icons was certainly messy
Perhaps you misunderstood me? I wrote apps (".. a QT or KDE app"), not
environment. :-) Gnome is neat and slick, I like it and many other people like
it, I just like KDE better.
Well, I can understand that people don't use a program because they don't like
it, or are using something that they think is better, but choose away an app
because of the tookit?. I don't like GTK and wxWidgets, but it's no way that I
stop using two of my favorite apps because their toolkits: Ardour (GTK)and
Audacity(wx). I even use wx on an Opensource project (SocratiMA) I'm working
on that will be finished by end of this year.
Jostein
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