On Sunday 14 June 2009 18.10.51 Brent Busby wrote: > Okay, thanks for the info. By the way, is KDE 4 still a mess (as I keep > hearing), or should all the fear and loathing subside now? If someone says that now: don't listen to them, it's probably the old Desktop War ghost running in someone's mind. Many people (including me) are using KDE4 and it's very clean and user centric (and thank God, it's still hacker friendly, users are still not protected against them self as in some other environments/OSs) ;-) . However, I did not go from KDE3 before 4.1 was out. Look at this: http://www.josander.net/images/kde4.png If you look at the right side, I have my Desktop Icons in groups (DAW, System, Guitar, Synths/Sampler etc) and the Desktop folder in a plasma widget (avoidin loads of icons here and there. I do also normally hide my panel but shows it now for the screenshot. Also, I use GTK, KDE, QT and Gnome apps when needed, no problem. Why do some people still have problem using an app just because it's a QT or KDE app? I don't get that. Messy? No way! Jostein _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user