On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 08:56:09PM +0000, pete shorthose wrote: > Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > (about Wagner's Rheingold ouverture) > > It would a be difficult one for any beat detector I'd say, > > and any beats would totally destroy it. There's enough life > > in it with just the three Rheintöchter. > > This is really an argument about semantics. Surely it's easier to > more clearly define what you mean by good music than it is to > fight over who best embodies the meaning of the original word which > is by now utterly bastardised. There are many different factors that > contribute to a person deciding that a given piece of music is good. > If you want to exclude any of them then you should define those > exclusions from the outset, if only to avoid the controversy that > will arise as a result of that omission. What discussions of what constitutes good music are you referring to ? I commented on the example given in the original post. Everybody can put beats on the Rheingold ouverture, it's as easy as spraying some bright yellow paint on a copy of a Rubens picture, and the result is similar. Apart from the idea 'this is possible' either act takes nothing that could be called creative, you don't need to be a musician or a painter to do it. Anyone doing this and pretending to be an artist is just fooling his audience. Apart from the 'act' which may result in five minutes of fame - look what I've done ! - it would be completely irrelevant, except in a completely different context that would have nothing to do with either music or painting. You can always try it if you want. There isn't any regular 'beat' pattern in the Rheingold ouverture - it's meant to be suggestive of flowing water and waves if anything. A human listener can detect it's written in 6/8, but only because some of the melodic patterns suggest this. Any beat detector I know of would have a difficult time. But go ahead, put some beats on it manually and enjoy the result ! Ciao, -- FA Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica Parma, Italia O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
