Re: hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar

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drew Roberts wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 May 2008 10:56, Pieter Palmers wrote:
>> Loki Davison wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Al Thompson <biggles58@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Loki Davison <loki.davison@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: schoappied <schoappied@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: Al Thompson <biggles58@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re:  hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar
>>>>
>>>>> wow. This is so wrong it hurts... You say phantom power not possible
>>>>>
>>>> >from a pci slot or computer power supply but with usb mixer? ARRG! USB
>>>>> is a great way to plug in your mouse. For audio, go pci, or if you
>>>>> can't got pci, firewire or pcmcia.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10 channel in 14 out. and yes, to Al, ......... phantom power on both
>>>>> mic pre's from a pci card! wow.... like standard... The linux mixer
>>>> Just out of curiosity, where is the 48V coming from?  There is no 48V
>>>> available internally.  There is 12V, if you want to limit yourself to
>>>> AKG and Shure mics, but I wouldn't want to draw that much current from a
>>>> computer supply.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-DC_converter
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter
>>
>> How do you think a bus powered USB device does it? USB bus power is 5V.
>>
>>>>> usb = crap. Oh, just in case you missed it. I think usb is a bad
>>>>> choice.
>>>> What's your dislike of USB?  You can do 2x2 even over USB 1.1.  Until
>>>> the latest version of the Firewire standard, it couldn't hold a candle
>>>> to USB.
>> my firewire alarm triggered here...
>>
>> What latest version are you talking about? The 1995 version (400Mbit/s)
>> can handle >200 channels at 48k, providing both phase and rate accuracy
>> for all channels throughout the system. There is not a doubt about the
>> fact that FireWire is technically superior to USB in general, and
>> definitely regarding audio.
> 
> Sounds great, but where can I find a firewire interface that will let me 
> record 24+ tracks at once. I am in the market for one if my pocket can handle 
> the cost... (This is in no way related to to USB comparison...)

There are none that have 24 preamps. However, there are plenty that can 
handle +24 channels with the use of external preamps. The magic number 
seems to be "26", being "8 preamps, 2x ADAT, 1x spdif". Then there are 
some devices that provide 4x/4x ADAT I/O.

I'm only going to give one device name since that's the only one on our 
supported device list: Focusrite Saffire PRO26.

To get a more broad overview of the market I would suggest you look at 
the offerings from TC Electronic, Presonus and M-Audio too if you look 
for something like this. I can name at least 5 devices that do 24channel 
(spdif doesn't count for me) I/O if you have 16channels of external 
preamp. All at 48k of course.

Greets,

Pieter


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