On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Al Thompson <biggles58@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Loki Davison <loki.davison@xxxxxxxxx> > To: schoappied <schoappied@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Al Thompson <biggles58@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; > Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 1:04:58 AM > Subject: Re: hardware: recording voice and acc. guitar > >>wow. This is so wrong it hurts... You say phantom power not possible >>from a pci slot or computer power supply but with usb mixer? ARRG! USB >>is a great way to plug in your mouse. For audio, go pci, or if you >>can't got pci, firewire or pcmcia. >> >>10 channel in 14 out. and yes, to Al, ......... phantom power on both >>mic pre's from a pci card! wow.... like standard... The linux mixer > > Just out of curiosity, where is the 48V coming from? There is no 48V > available internally. There is 12V, if you want to limit yourself to AKG > and Shure mics, but I wouldn't want to draw that much current from a > computer supply. > >>usb = crap. Oh, just in case you missed it. I think usb is a bad choice. > > What's your dislike of USB? You can do 2x2 even over USB 1.1. Until the > latest version of the Firewire standard, it couldn't hold a candle to USB. > > > FYI - in my project studio, I use a pair of 1010 PCI cards (which also > refuse to work simultaneously under Linux). I just thought the goal here > was to find something inexpensive, versatile, easy to use, with lots of > features (which is why I use a USB mixer at home). If the goal was to have > many ins and outs, 192/96 AD/DAs, and lightpipes, I'd have suggested > something different. > > > Forget it, I guess my opinion's not welcome here. > > > Of course your opinion is welcome. It's just the fact that many pci cards do phantom power fine and within spec for any phantom powered mic. I can't see how usb has anything better for this. Usb for audio has a pile of problems technically. It's latency is bad, channel count is low and in that case it was more expensive than the option i showed. The echo mixer and envy mixer apps for pci cards are also really nice with good VU's and easy direct routing. I don't think at any point even for laptops usb was the best solution as pcmcia layla's etc exist. I'm sorry if I sounded like an arse though ;) I just had an annoying usb card for a long time and get vengeful if i think about it.... Loki _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user