-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 11:52:32PM -0500, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > On 1/29/07, Ken Restivo <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 03:30:59PM -0500, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > >> I think jackd and Rosegarden are strictly Linux. And Alsa Modular Synth, > >> fwiw. > >> My favorite audio apps are Csound and Pure Data, both amazing FOSS > >> audio apps, but not exactly mainstream or friendly. Extremely > >> powerful, though. > >> http://www.csounds.com > >> http://puredata.info > >> > > > >A lot of people rave about these. But what do they *do*? What do they > >sound like? It seems like they're audio programming languages. What things > >have people built/recorded with them? > > > >Is there a "Made with [Csound|PD|Max/MSP]" somewhere? > > They are indeed audio programming languages. Lots of people use them > to study Digital Signal Processing and digital filters. I used Pure > Data to create a sequencer for alternate tuning systems that fit my > needs, as none existed that did. I think Pure Data's strength is its > data structures, which allow you to make a list of any number of > qualities for lists of items; I used them for the notes in my system, > and plan on using them for automations. People also use Pd to do > video manipulations, which I don't know much about. > Just from what I know, Csound does granular, FM, mixing, MIDI, all > kinds of filtering (there are LOTS of kinds), AM, scanned synthesis, > waveguide, wave terrain, formant synthesis, FFT, phase vocoding, > convolution, morphing, sample playback, and dynamics processing. It > does more that I don't understand too. One thing I love is that it > can play any frequency whatsoever, not just the Big 12. This is all > in addition to the usual math and "if" statement stuff of regular > programming languages. > > There used to be a pretty extensive set of internet radio shows with > all Csound stuff at csounds.com, but none of them seem to be there > now. This guy has some good Pure Data stuff: > > http://obiwannabe.co.uk/html/music/music.html God DAMN that is good stuff! "George Bush smoked my bluegrass" made me shout, YEAH! > I think you have to use Pure Data to hear his compositions, though. Nope, he's got MP3's there. > > I think Tobias Enhaus' Csound piece here is the best one: > http://www.csounds.com/compositions/index.html That's indeed an outstanding composition. That vocoder sound was made in csound? Hmm. > > I'm embarrassed that I can't produce more examples, but it is true > that both Csound and Pd can sound like absolutely anything. The > distinction is in how they're used more than what they do. > That makes sense. The examples you provided have been sufficient to pique my interest. I enjoyed listening and it seems I can download the "source" (osc and sco files for Csound, pd files for, uh, PD), and learn quite a lot from them. Again, thanks. - -ken -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFvv/xe8HF+6xeOIcRAvtBAJ987wb1nXX0CSVX72aO7LSnTXyW1gCfa2lJ zSsEBIvECUMrIBRX+IixvyI= =xeMs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
