Rob wrote: > On Sun March 12 2006 19:08, cdr wrote: > >> you should check out Ruby/Rails. i slowly moved from PHP & >> Perl to mod_python a few years ago, and now moving on again. >> such a big fan of the 1.1 release that im doing some >> standalone GUI apps in it instead of say PyQT or TCL/Tk (using >> Ruby-GtkMozEmbed and Mongrel) >> > > I like Rails and may use it for my next big project (having run > into a number of walls trying to come up with my own Perl AJAX > framework.) PHP seems to have critical mass at the moment, > though, just as Perl had critical mass for web apps when I > started doing them in 1996. > > If you are speaking of dynamic web design (you mentioned PHP) try looking into Seaside: http://seaside.st/ It's power is smalltalk - either visual works or squeak (http://squeak.org/About/) If you are looking into programming languages, look into squeak. See the link above for more than my brief intro here, but also the homepage for info: http://squeak.org/ The complete system is open and at your disposal for modifying, inspecting, learning, debugging, creating, etc. Squeak runs on many platforms and the image is bit-identical for all platforms (although there may be some a plugin that only runs on only one or a few platforms - but I don't know of any off hand.) Developers see: http://squeak.org/Features/Development/ I'd be happy to answer any questions about squeak. brad
