=> Fender has their Pre CBS and Post CBS (hecha en Mexico) era's. => Peavey was accused of making non-standard solid-state components that were only available in their factories. => Behringer's stomp box products were delayed for import to the USA over patent disputes. It seems a company's success is tied directly to it's ability to overcome adversity and misperception. So what their cable tester looks like another one. Did they copy it exactly, did they break any laws, or did they license the original design? Were any laws actually broken? What was settled with the stomp box patents? I believe the stomp boxes are available in the USA now. I find it funny, sad, and ironic that in a linux related list that someone is complaining that a company reused somebody's existing widget rather than coming up with it's own proprietary widget. Here is a question to the person who complained about this: Do you use a Linux distro, or do you use FIPS to partition your hard drive, then build your entire Linux system from source (and I am not referring to Gentoo)? I will admit Behringer had a rough start, but I like their products, and I like their prices. When I go to purchase something, there are many factors to consider. Sometimes I choose Behringer, but not all the time. If you wanted bash them about their linux support (or lack of it) I would be happy to join in, especially with the V-Amp and FCB1010. On this thread, I will have to come to their defense. BTW ironic does not mean made of iron. -=cybersean3000=- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com