Howdy peeps, arcangel is a very simple distortion jack-enabled effect. It sounds warm and crunches nicely when you turn it up. If there was a competition for the simplest non-demo jack app, this would probably win. http://www.dis-dot-dat.net/index.cgi?item=/code/arcangel/ There's a demo mp3, too. If someone feels like playing a guitar through it for a new demo, let me know. My playing isn't up to scratch. And I'd love to hear a bass guitar through it... Thanks to all the people on the LAD list that made suggestions on widget sets. It was much appreciated. In the end, I went with xforms because it was so simple and small, although I might play with GTK at some point. James -- "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you." (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)