On 2/23/06, Frank Barknecht <fbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hallo, > Dave Griffiths hat gesagt: // Dave Griffiths wrote: > > > > Frank, but you've got to admit computer hardware events can be mapped to > > > other things than just MIDI notes, such as algorithms... yeh? > > Yes, that's where the interesting stuff starts. > > > But to go back to your analogy, I think computer programming is a little > > different to woodwork, in that the machine can be seen as a medium or a > > tool. > > > > So for computer musicians who think about it in this way, learning to > > write code will make them better *computer* musicians. > > > > I think a nice compromise is PD (and I'm sure frank will agree ;) - as a > > way to program in a form that many artistic people are comfortable with. > > As you know, I'm not live-coding myself, although I think, it's a > fascinating way of expression. But in the end, it doesn't matter too > much, if you code live or if you just code at home and then do some > non-coding stuff on stage or even play back a tape (or today press the > space bar, then go to the beer bar.) > > The important thing in *computer music* to me is related to what you > said about seeing the computing machine as a medium of expression. It > is not just an electronic instrument (one could imagine computers > without any electronic parts, just pen and paper), it's music done by > *computing* something, by formalizing ideas and approaches into some > kind of rule system. In this regard, computer music isn't too far away > from traditional music, which also has a developed lot of rules of > expression in all cultures. > > But I'm getting too philosophical. Did I mention, that everyone should > read "Alan Turing: The Enigma" by Andrew Hodges rather than "The > Computer Music Tutorial"? ;) > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > Agreed. But mostly because i'm not that big a fan of the computer music tutorial, big, heavy light on detail, lot of useless crap with some useful stuff. Alan turing is however, the man. Damn cool all round. Loki