> Kew-ew-ew-ewlllll... > > Frank, but you've got to admit computer hardware events can be mapped to > other things than just MIDI notes, such as algorithms... yeh? > > What I'm saying is it would be nice to find attract a lot of passionate > violin builders so passionate violinists don't have to learn so much > woodwork. A little is fine, but... Personally I ended up making programming the way I make music, and therefore reduced the gap between the two, but I still spend hours writing the tools for writing this code, and the things the code drives, but this is just because I am stubborn and won't use much prewritten code (jack and liblo basically :) But to go back to your analogy, I think computer programming is a little different to woodwork, in that the machine can be seen as a medium or a tool. So for computer musicians who think about it in this way, learning to write code will make them better *computer* musicians. I think a nice compromise is PD (and I'm sure frank will agree ;) - as a way to program in a form that many artistic people are comfortable with. cheers, dave