On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:32:42AM -0800, R Parker wrote: > Punchins aren't illegal and anyone can engineer for > you in a non-destructive DAW like Ardour. If you don't > tell anyone about the punchin then you can move on to > composing and producing another song which makes > everybody happy. :) > > ron --- --- I guess my (irrational) fear is that a punchin/punchout will somehow be obvious to the listener--that either there will be an abrupt momentary change in ambience, an abrupt cutting off of pre-punchin sound as the punchin occurs, or I'll be in a slightly different mood and the volume or performance won't match, etc. I have been able (I think) to hear punchins in old analog tape recordings, of Van Cliburn playing the Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov piano concertos, of an obscure (but good) eastern European orchestra playing Stravinsky's Firebird (there were *lots* of punchins, some of them very obvious and awkward, in that recording), and so my listening experience has made me wary of punchins. But, like I mentioned, I'm sure it is an irrational fear. ;-) During this recording (for Arabesque 1), I made a strong note to myself after recording take after take (dozens of them) to learn about and begin to try punchin techniques. I'm especially interested to learn whether Ardour automatically creates (or can be configured to do so) brief overlapping fadeouts/fadeins at punch points. I'm sure that this information is in the (as yet not fully read) Ardour online manual. ;-) In fact, I think I'll check that out right now-- -sd -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- History from a 10 year old: "Beethoven wrote music even though he was deaf. He was so deaf that he wrote loud music and became the father of rock and roll. He took long walks in the forest even when everyone was calling for him. Beethoven expired in 1827 and later died for this." ----------------------------------------------------------------