Re: Re: 192kHz

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Florin Andrei wrote:

Some people (sound/music professionals) do report an audible improvement
of the sound quality when using 192.
Even from an objective standpoint, wave forms of the high end of the
audio spectrum are slightly different when using 192. It is conceivable
that those differences can be perceived in some rare instances.

I think one of the earlier posters in this thread got it exactly right when he said that it's not so much that we want to reproduce frequencies that nobody can hear, it's that we'd like to have enough resolution to reproduce the waveforms of the ones we can hear well enough to be able to tell what shape they were supposed to be. As you go into the higher octaves, having only a few samples-per-wave resolution gives horribly approximated versions of each wave. Sure, a nice filter can smooth off the peaks and nastier bits, but you're still just trying to repair a wave that's had some of the information taken out of it -- and this for frequencies that are within our hearing range.

It never makes sense to sample the analog world as "just enough" resolution. Good flatbed scanners scan at 45-bit color so they can give you 24. Good audio gear samples at 24-bit resolution so you can master at 16. It's never a bad idea to leave some room on sampling frequency. Things like that contribute to that "dithering noise" metallic sound that analog recordists never had to worry about. They were cursed with more background hiss and a lower dynamic range, but since the human ear already has to deal with noise and signal strength issues in daily use of our sense of hearing, I think things like that on analog recordings have always been easier for a listener to psychologically tune out than that metallic "sheen" in the upper octaves that bad digital recordings (especially over-processed ones) seem to always have. Nature never has that particular kind of distortion, so it's harder for the listener to overlook the way we've always forgiven phonograph and tape recordings in the past.

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