Hi Loki... Sorry if I'm late! I published your point of view as you suggested and I answered to you here: http://www.openjay.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=96 Cheers, Alle 02:22, gioved? 10 novembre 2005, Loki Davison ha scritto: > On 11/10/05, J_Zar <j_zar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Alle 11:09, mercoled? 09 novembre 2005, Esben Stien ha scritto: > > > OT: It's really sad that a community portal has ads. > > > > Really OT: Quite true.. But it's really sad to manage a community portal > > without any cash input to pay the efforts! Efforts are: time, code, > > service I suppose that service / contents of OpenJay.org is not good > > enough to gain > > This is a bit of rant.... > > I really wonder what people are looking for in a sound card for one. > Any "openjay" should really be given this advice to start with. > > Buy a mixer. > Any application that suggests it is a good idea to use the built in > (i.e computer) mixer/eq/effects etc is well, in my opinion deluded at > best. It's like suggesting to use the computer keyboard for playing a > piano synth. Then what you look for on a card are 2 stereo outs to go > to your mixer. I REALLY suggest some of the developers of the limited > number of dj apps for linux really need to learn how to dj first, on > standard equipment. By this i mean a mixer and sl1200's (or copy of if > can't borrow/limited for cash) or if that's not possible, a worse > option, a mixer and standard club cdj's. > > Dj apps really should be modeled on turntables or cdj's. Something > proved to be useful. Anything you can't do on a turntable is pretty > much pointless for djing. A pitch range of > 8% is not in any way a > good idea. If i get outside of +-5% it would be a freak occurrence. > I've actually used djplay http://djplay.sourceforge.net/ in a small > gig. I had my mixer, 2 sl1200's but a very limited collection of vinyl > as i was travelling internationally. I used djplay as a substitute for > a cdj. It wasn't too bad for that, and much more suitable than the > other apps i've used, but in no way to the standard of a cheap > turntable/cdj. > > All linux dj apps seem to have problem with cueing well. By this i > mean finding the first cue point, were to release from in normal vinyl > speak. On a cdj or vinyl these are scrub over the beat you want and > release the vinyl or press cue on a cdj, in time with the beat on the > other deck. Try doing this on any linux dj app. > > Accuracy for pitch is also very limited. For correcting in the mix > (after i had the tunes beatmatched and live, i.e both together) i > would have to correct the vinyl copy not the djplay copy, as small > pitch changes, i.e 0.1% smoothly is VERY hard with current linux dj > apps. > > In regard to cdj/turntable focus, effects are useless. If people want > to use effects, they can either route the output of the dj prog > through om or jack-rack, or effects loop on there mixer through om or > jack-rack. However neither of these are a good idea, as effects are > really not a good idea in djing, unless you are really to the level > where you can mix perfectly while playing with the effects. After 5 or > 6 years of djing (vinyl) for minimum one hour per day, i am not to > this stage. Layering accapellas, etc is much more fun. > > I'm happy to help with any djing questions, however i'm really > wondering why none of this style of info is at openjay.org. If you > want to put my suggestions there, feel free. > > end rant! > > Loki -- Gianluca Romanin (aka J_Zar)
